Hi
New to this forum and Eriba.

I have a 2012 Peugeot Bipper Teppee, diesel, 1249cc engine with semi automatic gearbox. Max braked trailer weight is 1000kg.

Looking to to buy a Puck although I believe the older Pan may also be suitable. Never towed with the Bipper so not sure how it will cope

Has anyone any experience towing with the Bipper Teppee and if so, good or bad.

Thanks

Thanks

Some confusion here.

According to the Honest John specification database the Bipper Tepee auto has a 1399cc diesel engine with no max. towing weight listed, which usually means that it cannot legally tow, though sometimes they've just missed out the towing figure. However the former sounds more likely as all the manual versions do show a towing limit, which is 600kg. So I'm not sure where the figure of 1000kg comes from but I'd recommend checking the car's mandatory weight plate as Colin suggests. There should be four weights shown. The two lowest are front and rear axle limits, the second highest is the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) i.e the max. the car can legally weigh and the heaviest weight listed is the Gross Train Weight (GTW), the max the car and any trailer can weigh. You take GVW from GTW to give you the towing limit, in most cases. If there's no GTW shown then the car cannot legally tow anything. If it is the case that the auto versions can't tow , whilst the manual version can then it's likely that Peugeot consider the auto box can't handle the stresses involved.

PS I've also checked the C&MC database and that shows only a 1.4 auto but with a 600kg towing limit. However the Citroen and Fiat versions of the same car are listed with 1.3 litre engines, so maybe Peugeot marketed a version with the smaller engine but it doesn't feature in databases.

Thank you. Some confusion here.
Referring to the V5 (model Peugeot Bipper Tepee Outdoor HDI S-A 1248cc)
it clearly says braked towable mass is 1000Kg (unbraked 400kg).
The owners handbook also says 1000kg braked.
Couldnt find the plate on the vehicle.

Found the plater/sticker on passenger side door.
Does not state GVWR etc but just reads ;

Max Allowed Axle Loading Front : 950kg Rear :950kg

Yes, think I prefer to keep it 850kg or less to give some wiggle room so a Puck should be fine (I think)

I think legally it is the VIN plate that specifies the various weights and that is what any official would look at.
Steve.

All vehicles have to have the VIN plate with the four weights (more if you have three or more axles). Without it it's illegal to run a vehicle on the road. So somewhere the Bipper will have those weights, which, as Steve says are there for enforcement officers to access.

Found the plate hidden underneath some trim in rear cargo area.
There are four weights but the words GTW Gross Train Weight and GVW Gross Vehicle Weight are not used.

1710 kg
2710 kg
1- 950 kg
2- 950kg

First figure 1710 kg must be GVW
Second figure 2710 must be GTW
and the last two and front and rear axle weights

Subtract GTW 1710 from GVW 2710 gives 1000kg = Maximum towing capacity must be 1000kg (as identified in V5 and owners manual).

1000kg max

So ideal deal towing weight I am looking for are:
85% = 850kg
75% = 750kg

Thanks

Hi. I'm new on here. I'm seriously looking to buy an Eriba soon, probably a Puck as I've never towed anything before. Scary times ahead! I've being doing the same research as Coutel - working out towing weights and allowances. Nightmare! The weight info my car is like Coutel's - not that informative to the uninitiated! - but I confirmed it elsewhere. I have a Citreon C3 1.2 and after doing the maths it is apparently capable of towing a Puck. But will it get up the hills ok...? Is it ok to admit to being nervous??

The mandatory weight plate has to follow international rules as far as format is concerned and doesn't have words against each weight because there are so many potential languages. The first one and obviously the heaviest, is the train weight limit , the second on the listing and second heaviest, is the vehicle's weight limit and the other two are the axle limits.
The towing limit is usually the product of taking the second limit from the first.
To muddy the waters somewhat, some manufacturers, notably, but not exclusively Peugeot/Citroen occasionally give a towing limit in manuals etc that is higher than the figure obtained by using the two plated weights. In such a case it means that if you do tow a higher weight trailer you have to reduce the max the car can weigh and conversely, if you load the car to its max, then the towing limit has to be reduced accordingly. The prime point is that the plated weights must never be exceeded. It looks as if neither of the vehicles mentioned in this thread suffer from that particular issue though.