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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:30 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Just checked my van and as you can see, the green light on the Schaudt booster is off.

The multimeter is showing 13.67V and the panel voltmeter 13.8V. Odd.

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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:37 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: Agger wrote in post #7
Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #6
PS Just seen Hob's comment and that makes sense - but what could you short by pushing the fire front back? needs investigating.



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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:42 pm
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Andy.

Can you isolate the booster from the battery circuit and report back with the voltage across the terminals (with the van still hooked up to the mains), d'you think? There should be an inline fuse between the booster and the battery.

It'd be good to rule out incorrect wiring of the booster - it really should have no function unless you have a vehicle attached and its engine is running.

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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:50 pm
by 4ndy (deleted)
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Ok. I just isolated the booster by putting the smaller trip switch down, the green light went off The reading is now 13.65


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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:50 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Good point, Pete.

There's a 2amp (grey) fuse on the floor of the van near the booster. Mine had blown preventing the booster from working so removing that temporarily would do the trick, Andy.


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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:52 pm
by 4ndy (deleted)
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Hang on....... I forgot I had left 5 lights on, as I switched the lights of the meter reading went down and down one by one, and now it's reading 13.60v


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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:54 pm
by 4ndy (deleted)
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I did remove that first and then the bottom fuse, then finally switched the switch to the down position.

Whilst writing this the meter is going up it's now on 13.64v still with the green light off.


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#23

RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:16 pm
by 4ndy (deleted)
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If the booster box is really just connected to the towing side does this mean I will have to flick the switch back up when towing.

I am having my van converted from single electrics to a 13 pin socket in a weeks time. Should I make the fitter aware of this booster box?


Meter now reading 13.68v


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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:17 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

Checked my van (2002) cosmetically similar BIP set up.On EHU and ONLY the RED light is on. I too thought that green light on the booster only comes on when connected to the tow car's alternator, and only when charging rate is reached.

Hope this helps


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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:24 pm
by 4ndy (deleted)
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Hi Ribski

Is your mini isolator switch in the down position also


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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:25 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

This is all very confusing.

So far as I understand it (and I'm wide-open to correction here) the Continentals tend to use their vans almost exclusively on EHU so normally they would not have a leisure battery fitted. If they wanted to stop overnight, at an aire for example, leaving their car and caravan connected, they would flick the second switch on the BIP up and be able to run lights, taps etc. from their car battery. I assume there would have been some system to prevent them discharging the battery to the extent that they would be unable to start the car?

UK imports through Letchlade were upgraded with a BIP SE unit, battery and Schaudt booster as we Brits are more likely to camp away from an EHU. People who import vans from the Continent usually have to modify them to UK specification but not having done this myself, I'm unsure what that entails.

The second switch on the BIP is therefore of no practical use on a UK spec caravan and mine (when it worked as originally intended) was always in the 'off' position. But this switch had no effect on the booster unit which worked only when towing. As my switch has now been modified I'm unable to check again.

It's quite possible that Hymer modified their circuitry between my van and yours but if so, I can't see any sensible reason for connecting the booster to the electrical system when on EHU.

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#27

RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:26 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

Just noticed that your voltmeter appears to be showing a MINUS VOLTAGE ?

Which would seem to indicate either that the probes are not connected in the correct polarity OR the charging system or battery are not connected correctly ?

I may be wrong - just going by the pics !


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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:32 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

Mini Isolator switch is in DOWN position.


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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:38 pm
by 4ndy (deleted)
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We'll spotted.

I am no whizz with these gadgets, I have just moved the probes down a hole each on the meter

Reading now says 13.70v without the minus sign.


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RE: Charging system gone wrong????

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:48 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

OK just checked on my meter - if you connect the probes as you had done originally , you do indeed get a minus reading on DC volts ! As you've now discovered the conventional connections are -ve to the com. on the meter and +ve to the middle socket. V,ohms,mA now all is right in the World


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