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Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:40 pm
by Lily (deleted)
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First time out with 552 not towed before. Overtook lorry on motorway, gust of wind, it started snaking! We managed to somehow keep contol and get to hard shoulder and off the next juntion. It was terrifying.

We ve realised that the tyre pressure was wrong (too low) and weight not distrubted correctly.

We have scales now to check the nose weight.

Any other tips appreciated. Thanks.


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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:43 pm
by hob (deleted)
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Are you doing up the hitch stabiliser correctly.


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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:54 pm
by jobberwock (deleted)
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It is very frightening and with big lorries can happen very easily.

As a general rule I would only overtake a large lorry on the motorway if their speed dropped to aound 50 for some distance.

I've been caught out overtaking when the lorry starts to accelerate and you're stuck alongside them going too fast.


The other thing to consider is the weight of your van to that of the towing vehicle. As I recall it should never be more than 85%.

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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:44 am
by dranddad (deleted)
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Very glad you're all ok Lily.

You can take all the precautions best thing is to never stop using your own driving senses, it can happen to others who think they have it all covered with years of towing behind them.

Just glad you're ok.

Phillip.



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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:24 am
by hampshireman (deleted)
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Hope you're OK Lily and sorted things that were wrong


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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:25 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Sorry to hear of your scare. When I was new to towing I avoided motorways and overtaking until I had a better 'feeling' for how the car/caravan combination handled. It takes some getting used to at first.

When checking your noseweight look at the maximum figures for both your caravan and your tow bar and aim to get as close as possible to the lower of these two figures. This is because at speed the caravan tends to lift due to the movement of air underneath it and this reduces the downward pressure at the hitch and affects the handling. If you get it wrong, passing large vehicles can induce the snaking that you describe.

Also, you need not only to ensure that your stabiliser unit is adjusted correctly but also that the friction pads are not glazed and that they and the tow ball are clean and free from dust and other contaminants. Elsewhere on the forum we have discussed how to deglaze the pads and tow ball which basically involves rubbing them with emery cloth and then cleaning them with a rag dipped in a solvent such as car brake cleaner or alcohol which evaporates quickly after use.

You may also need to replace the pads if they are beyond salvation. This is an easy job if you are at all 'handy' and is fully described in the 'How to....' section of the forum.

You don't say if your Eriba and tow bar are new or if they have had prior use. A new tow ball should have all paint removed from it prior to use and if you also tow a trailer, make absolutely sure that its hitch is not greased as this will contaminate your stabiliser pads and render them useless.

That's about it, I think. Doubtless others will chip in if I've forgotten anything.

Have a look here: Replacing stabiliser pads

Let us know how you get on.


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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:51 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Now I am confused.

It has just been pointed out to me that you first raised this query in September 2016 see here and that it was answered in depth by a number of our members.

At the time I was touring in France and didn't respond although I did 'like' Deeps' comprehensive and detailed post that covered the points I made earlier this morning. I had completely forgotten this thread even though it was created only a few weeks ago.

What is the point in simply going over the same material again and wasting people's time in the process?


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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:22 pm
by campnsnooze (deleted)
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In defence of Lily and other newbies to the site, it sometimes takes a few weeks to get used to this site. Lily joined on 7 Sept but maybe as a new user of which she says in a further reply on 23 Nov did not realise how to get back into a post she has done. I note she has not 'liked' any reply until the last few days, so maybe has not seen them??


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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:39 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

You may be right but if that is the case then a brief explanation would have been appreciated as it would have allowed us to link to the previous thread and avoid duplication of effort.


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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:41 pm
by Poptop320 | 2.634 Posts

Another tip is don't overtake going down a hill, if you have to brake the van starts to push the car and can induce snaking or worst case scenario a jack knife.

Here is a link to help if you're new to towing

http://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co....onfidenttowing/


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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:14 am
by Toilingtroll (deleted)
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Hi, it's good you lived to tell the tale. You, and others, might consider taking a Caravan Club towing course. I did even before I got my van. It gave me tons of information on many many aspects of towing and practical hands on practice of manoeuvring, including reversing. The course also covered tyre pressures, towing weights, and speed limits for caravan towing (50mph on single carriageway and 60 on dual carriageways and motorways). It also warned us of the difficulties to be wary of when overtaking lorries. A suction develops between a lorry and towing unit which releases when either of the vehicles clears the other so it becomes a potentially tricky situation. The course gave me a good basis on which to further develop my towing skills. I'd venture to suggest that the price of the course is a really very minor cost when put against the safety of your unit, passengers, value of your van and lessens the chance of a ruined holiday.



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RE: Snaking! First time out :-(

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:50 am
by Toilingtroll (deleted)
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I've thought about snaking scenario a bit more. The individual details are never too clear, for example did the event happen going down hill, was the van correctly loaded and so on. There are many variables in the equation. But in essence I'd venture to suggest that towing a van requires a totally different 'head space' it's not like driving a car. What you might do in a car cannot in many instances be attempted with a van in tow. I rather think that caravan towing 'errors' are exacerbated in a disproportionate relationship to driver skill. In other words you might get away with some things in a car but not with a van in tow. And another thought. Many modern cars give, IMHO, a false sense of security, safety features like airbags, seat belts crush zones whilst very welcome help change the driver's psychological perception of risk. There might be a subliminal belief that 'even if I cock up ' I'll be saved by my safety features. Which in many cases is likely to be true, but then you've had your accident. Compare my contemporary motor to my cars of yesteryear. My Suby is like travelling on my living room sofa with the central heating on all very comfortable when compared to my early non towing years in Renault 4 and Morris Minor. Those motors really let you know when you were increasing your speed and/or the roads had poor surfaces or it was -1deg outside. Good luck chums. I'm looking forward to an early new year trip with the Troll.


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