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Nearly reduced to tears

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:22 pm
by hampshireman (deleted)
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We went to see the film Dunkirk last Friday. Not entertainment and harrowing from start to finish, Bit of a soft ending, not needed really but what a magnificent production to bring home the horror. Superb music, no great acting.

Then I watched the ceremony from the Menin Gate on Sunday evening, which we will visit in September. Beautifully handled although the injection of humour with the two bits of Wipers Times, didn't hit the right mark. Humour can be used in sombre events, but this didn't work for me although as a stand alone comedy I enjoyed it.

Very very moving all of it.


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RE: Nearly reduced to tears

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:20 am
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

We also went to see 'Dunkirk' and agree with your comments , an excellent report 👍 Kathy and Martin.


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RE: Nearly reduced to tears

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:43 am
by Randa france | 13.258 Posts

Not seen the film yet but I did have the honour and privilege of driving an ex BEF Dunkirk veteran to the 60th and last official commemoration ceremony at Dunkirk in 2000.

What was really eye opening is that we spent a few days retracing the route of the BEF from the Arras area through Armentieres, Ypres and to the coast. My companion had written everything down and he was involved in the rear guard action throughout the journey only arriving at Dunkirk on the last day.

Apart from the March Past ( I had to be involved as a helper) and viewing some of the small boats that has crossed the channel, I was amazed at the heroes welcome given to everyone by the Dunkirk public, both young and old.

At one point during our tour we visited the grave of one of his chums and also while in the flat lands of Belgium we found the farmhouse and windmill that his regiment used during the withdrawal. The Germans were using the Church Tower in the village some 3 kms south as a look out post.

Do you know that the UK Government didn't give out a campaign medal yet the Allied forces were sadly under prepared. The Belgian Government did honour our troops with medals however.

Randa


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RE: Nearly reduced to tears

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:14 pm
by hampshireman (deleted)
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Visiting Ypres in September and visiting Carole's uncle's grave.


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RE: Nearly reduced to tears

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:20 pm
by Randa france | 13.258 Posts

It's becoming a tradition now to leave a pebble on the headstone to show that they are not forgotten. Originally a Jewish tradition.

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RE: Nearly reduced to tears

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:58 am
by Skoderiba | 211 Posts

Humour can be what is needed to temper the horrors of warfare. Not having seen Dunkirk I cannot comment on the film but my late father in law, Bill, was there.
In one of the reviews of the film there was an interview with a survivor from HMS Grenade which was hit by a bomb which went down the funnel while the ship was alongside the mole at Dunkirk. Bill was a torpedo officer on Grenade and was transferred to HMS Harvester as an instructor a few days before the evacuation.
Whilst serving on Harvester in the North Atlantic, Bill said that on one occasion they forced a U-Boat to the surface and the crew abandoned ship. After some debate it was decided to pick them up. By tradition the submarine captain was the last to leave his ship and on reaching the deck of Harvester, threw a very smart, stiff armed Nazi salute and a 'Heil Hitler'. They threw him back in the water. They picked him up the second time much subdued.
Bill was taken off from Harvester at Plymouth with an impacted wisdom tooth and the ship sailed without him. It never returned.
He went on to serve in the Arctic on HMS Kent.
He told of another incident whilst in the Med off Gibraltar. He was aboard HMS Talybont having applied for promotion from Petty Officer.
The Captain of Talybont was apparently newly promoted from the admiralty, getting in some 'sea time' and was not a very popular man. He blocked Bill's promotion because 'he has been swanning around the med in the sunshine while the real fighting was going on elsewhere'.
One day, the Captain decided to take a visiting VIP for a swim, not realising that there some very strong currents through the straights.
He and the VIP ended up some six miles from the ship, the lookout having 'not noticed they were missing'.
Bill never lost his sense of humour despite the things he had been through, only being reticent about the bad things that happened. When he died in 2014, he was most of the way through a (handwritten) memoir.

I will also be going to Belgium in on October 9th to Tyne Cot to place a white rose against the wall. John George(Jack)Prince b. 1886 -1st battalion, 4th Division Yorks and Lancs regiment. - missing in action 9th October 1917 - Passchendaele

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