Apologies if I am raking over the coals again but Iam still confused regarding permissible loading of our 310. Looking at the plate attached to the van it states: 850 Kgs. I presume this is the MRO and again presume it includes leisure battery. On the underside of the van is a plate showing a single axle x 900 Kgs. Is this the MTPL ? So we can only add 50 Kgs to the van ? Gas cylinder included in that? Is that correct ?
Kind Regards,
Chris

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No, that's the axle rating, it looks like your max load is 850k, the unladen weight would be around 750 depending on the age of your Eriba. This is the spec for the latest vans.
http://www.automotiveleisure.co.uk/NewEribaFamilia320.html
The best way is load up and go to the public weigh bridge, when I did that I had a nasty shock ie 100k over weight
If you contact Hymer Germany giving your VIN No they will give you full info on the van and you may be able to have it uprated to 900k for a fee of €89.
Dave

Don't one of those numbers on the VIN Plate give you the Model Year? I used to know the way to work it out but like a lot of things it's gone from the memory.

And Chris, the MIRO for an Eriba is for a very basic standard van. Anything that's on your van that's on the options list uses up Payload.

So things like a boiler, warm air ducting, stone shields, spare wheel, door flyscreen, battery and charger, etc, etc are all part of the van's Payload and aren't included in the MIRO figure. That's why most Eribas have a very large Payload allowance but once a van is specced up that allowance doesn't look anywhere near as large.

Boiler?

Surely passengers don’t count’🤫

Good job you're not skating Mr Tone. And Happy Manys

Many thanks,
Methinks we will have to be a bit more miserly with the loading from now on. Herself won't be best pleased when I jettison the creature comforts
Chris

I'm always amazed to see people arriving with their caravans and start unloading... I don't think many people pay any attention to the load. People load them up with extra fridges, freezers, awnings, bikes....... boats, surfboards......our previous owner had put a safe under one of the front seats And a microwave in the place of the heater

There is a continuing theme on Caravan Talk about caravan weights, expressed in a wide range of threads. Some are about the paucity of payloads, some the increasing effect of the B licence restriction, some about axle failures. None seem to link all these factors together.

The UK caravan industry has a 'thing' about low weight. The reason they have a 'thing' about it is because they percieve that because of the B licence weight restriction they need to produce vans with the lowest MTPLM's possible so that they can be towed by the widest range of cars and therefore be purchased by new, younger owners.
Having promoted a 'lightweight is good' philosophy for decades it's impossible for any UK mass market manufacturer to change tack. So they inexorably strive for lighter and lighter weights to publicise and try and gain custom.
This has included the manipulation and strict use of the NCC's minimum payload rules. These are based around a multiplier of so much payload per metre length and so much per berth. The result is the minimum payload allowance they can provide for any particular layout. Note it's the minimum, they are at total liberty to allow more, but they don't, due to the pressures of 'lightness', as mentioned earlier. It's even got to the stupid level whereby the NCC regs say that they must allow for a gas supply, but doesn't specify how much. So a decade ago they were being sensible and allowing 25kg for gas cylinders, now they've started including just 10kg, which means any cylinders weighing more than that are using some of the payload.
The result of all this is that 2 berth vans are being sold with 130kg payloads, 4 berth vans with 155kg and twin axle vans with just 165kg.
Now the NCC rules were written before motor movers became popular and motor movers are heavy. 30kg or even 40kg in some cases. Also MIRO doesn't include a battery, unless supplied with the van. So you buy you 2 berth white wobbly box with a 125kg payload and have a 33kg mover fitted, plus a good size battery as you reckon you'll need the power. That's another 25kg of payload gone. Suddenly with just those two items your available payload has gone from 125kg to just 67kg.
And then you start loading the van with all the stuff that made up the original payload that the NC C thought was reasonable back in the day. Result - a van overloaded by at least 30kg, probably more. And for those who cram everything in the van and don't even think of weight limits, the overload can easily reach 100kg.

Then they complain when the axle fails. Doh!

I perhaps should hasten to add that Eriba Touring owners shouldn't have to worry themselves too much about such issues.

In most cases Hymer have pursued a policy whereby the standard van is of very low spec. with a large list of cost and weight options that can be ordered. In order to accommodate the addition of options most Eriba's have a large payload allowance. Though there are some exceptions that you need to check on. Usually in such cases the dealership will advise a weight upgrade to build in the necessary weight availability.

However once your Eriba has been up-specced an owner should not bask in the illusion that he or she still has 300kg plus with which to fill their van. Often the optional extras can eat at least 100kg and if you go really mad nearer 200kg is possible. This could leave your average Triton or Troll owner with only 100kg to 150kg to fill their van. So beware things might not be as rosey weightwise as you think they are.