Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:33 pmby Eribee (deleted)
We had a nightmare break in Norfolk, at least we were not towing when we had a close encounter with a combine harvester, our car came off worst in this one and was written off. Luckily we are both well and now home, have a new car which needs a tow bar. Previously we had a fixed tow bar and the accompanying bruises on shins and kneecaps that go with these. We are thinking of getting a retractable tow bar that tucks itself away underneath when not in use, these are a bit pricey. Has anyone on here experience of these? Do you like them, are they worth the money?
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:11 amby eribaMotters • | 5.600 Posts
The retractable swan-neck tow bar that tucks itself away is a lovely neat thing. I have one fitted to my Audi with the 13 pin electrics located in the elbow part of it. They are expensive and I believe only available as a factory fit option on new cars, although I stand to be corrected on the later.
The detachable swan-neck version would I believe be your best option. Yes you have to kneel down on the floor to insert this, but after an initial attempt or two to get the knack it takes 2 seconds and goes in with a reassuring clunk. My 80 year old uncle has just had one fitted to his 3yr old E class Mercedes by P.F.Jones, a national company, for about £500 with fully functioning 13 pin dedicated vehicle electrics harness and is very pleased.
Colin
aka Oscar - Audi A3 1.5 petrol _ ex 430, 552, camplet trailer tent, 310, now a nice white 2017 430.
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:35 amby eribanaut • | 1.228 Posts
We've had all 3 types, fixed, removable and swing away,you already know the pitfalls of fixed, the swing away is the most convenient but it is prone to rust once you remove the paint unless you protect it somehow but very neat and tidy, the removable has the drawback of having to squat down to put it or off, not so good when the knees get old and creaky but again very neat and tidy. overall we find the swing away best and easiest to use as long as the ball is protected from the elements somehow.
Dave
Skoda Kodiaq 2.0 150 Tdi DSG Troll 552 - 2005
Don't worry about the destination, enjoy the journey.
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:49 amby eribaMotters • | 5.600 Posts
Dave,
I like you have noticed the ball goes rusty, so I now use a second rubber cover thats greased and used when out of season.
Colin
aka Oscar - Audi A3 1.5 petrol _ ex 430, 552, camplet trailer tent, 310, now a nice white 2017 430.
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:04 pmby Randa france • | 13.283 Posts
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:43 pmby Eribee (deleted)
Yes, Randa it was a bit ouch!!! So much help and support from so many kind people was a silver lining on this one and luckily we are now home and thinking about a new tow hitch so we can go out and about again
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:04 amby cruickie (deleted)
Like you, Colin, we have the retractable factory fitted tow-bar.
I've used your tip regarding smearing the ball lightly with grease during the winter months.
Before doing that I protect the ball with electricians tape which I wrap very tightly leaving no exposed areas. The moving parts I've given a quick spray with silicone lubricant.
The 13 pin dedicated vehicle electrics harness is very handy whilst once connected, the driver is kept informed of any problems with the caravan or cars
electrics through the infortainment system. Wife loves it as she no longer has to stand at the rear of the caravan whilst we check to see that everything is working with the lights.
I think my second choice for a tow bar would be one that's fixed, think it all depends on the shape of the vehicle and use.
Cruickie
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:12 pmby Williebraveheart • | 351 Posts
The retractable is the bees' knees. I note the disadvantages of a fixed lowball but quite honestly with a bit of care they are overcomable. The removable swan kneck sounds good but is the worst case scenario in my opinion. If you hitch in the dark forget it. Grovelling about underneath the car on a muddy pitch in the pouring rain is no fun. In fact grovelling about the runway is no fun either. Having had all three if you cannot have the swing back I would go for fixed.
Stewart
2019 Troll 535GT Fixed Bed. Mercedes GLA 220d 4Matic
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:11 pmby SOULBLUESMAN68 • | 1.206 Posts
Hi Eribee
We all have the bruises to show for non-retractable ones.
We currently have a clever factory fitted retractable one on our Skoda Karoq Scout that came with the car. It really is great but as Colin says it is prone to rust on the ball even with the cover on.
Before that we paid to have the removable one factory fitted on our Skoda Octavia Scout. I tend to agree with Stewart above that it was a pain in various parts of the body. When we collected it from the dealer I couldn't detach it at all. The mechanic came out to show us and cut his hand trying to get it off. He finally got it off but I had these visions of me kneeling down in the rain covering myself in blood taking it off and putting it back on.
I did take it off a couple of times but decided it was safer to my health to leave it on as if it was a permanent one. Yes I got some bruised shins but no more blood was shed. I wouldn't recommend one unless you are young, fit, active and have strong hands.
Good luck
MikeT
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:10 amby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
I have a Westfalia removable swan neck and dedicated electrics on the Audi. It was expensive (something like £700 gulp!) fitted by a local specialist but it ticks all my boxes.
I fit and remove the towball in the garage before and after each trip leaving it attached while we are away from home. I used to remove it when we arrived somewhere but soon realised that it was a bit precious of me and packed it in.
When the towball is not fitted it's stored inside the spare wheel under the boot floor and the 13 pin socket swivels out of sight up behind the bumper. Quite a few people have asked me how I tow a caravan when I haven't got a towball fitted.
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RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:46 amby Sportique • | 332 Posts
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:47 amby Julie Grafo • | 3.563 Posts
We had a removable tow bar factory fitted on our Honda. It was always a pain to fit and remove. Finally it wouldn’t fit at all. A mechanic at Honda finally fitted it but advised us that it was never coming off again. We’ve had it checked independent of Honda and now have a FITTED tow bar.
Julie & Neil. 2008 530GT pushing Honda CR-V 1.6 iDTEC SE+
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:05 amby Poptop320 • | 2.634 Posts
I have had a few detachables on all my cars over the years, however in hindsight the Vitara and Duster would have been best fixed as they were very close to the car. The Suzuki Jimny needed to be detachable due to it sticking so far out to pass the spare wheel on the tail gate.
Detachables are great for aesthetics but they can be a pain to fit, especially when it's chucking it down, plus it's just another thing to worry about whilst hitching up.
When I go on holiday I like to pop my top!
RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:10 amby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
It was vanity on my part as I didn't want to spoil the aesthetics of a sporty convertible with an ugly fixed towball.
I can honestly say that I've never experienced any problems either fitting or removing it. It only takes seconds so it's no hardship.
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RE: Any advice on new tow bar
in We've got it down to a T Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:22 amby Stevejoyce (deleted)
I had a detachable one fitted where the socket was horizontal rather than facing downwards. Think it was a Witter. This was very easy to use as you could see where you needed to stick it. Their quick release was also very easy. The types that you have to unscrew, then fit the ball to the socket from underneath, then screw up again just looked like a bit of a faff. The last two I have had however have been fixed swan neck type. I would always choose a swan neck over a flange type for a fixed one.
Triton 420 towed by a Ford Kuga 2.0 TDCi (well would be if we ever get a trip this year)
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