Sorry I know this has probably been covered to death
Went to check on caravan today after these storms
Everything ok as I can see
Opened the gas locker just to check and looked at the weight plate
So 3 boxes & serial
Top line 1300 kg
Middle 100kg
Bottom ,1300kg
My thinking top unladen
Middle nose weight
Bottom max laden weight
Thought the unladen weight would be a less
Or am I missing something
Thanks Paul

The unladen weight varies according to factory options (and maybe materials used) so Hymer just avoid the work of weighing each van's MRO by just repeating the MTPLM (1300kg). It's the MTPLM you are legally obliged to comply with so if you need to know the spare capacity it's off to a weighbridge I presume. The 100kg is the max nose weight allowed for the caravan. Your car and towbar will have their own maximum nose weight. That's my take on it only.

Steve

The weight plate varies depending on the year of the van. Earlier ones had less information than more recent ones which have to comply with EU Type Approval regulations.
I suspect the top figure is the MTPLM. The second figure, often labelled 'Axle 0' is the noseweight limit for the hitch (a limit not a target).
The third figure (Axle 1) is the axle weight limit..
You'll sometimes see an axle 2 and even 3 that were used for twin axle vans and lorries.
On some vans the MTPLM figure will be lower than the axle limit. This is known as downplating and is used to limit the loading so that a van appeals to owners of a wider range of tow cars. Downplating is also often used in commercial vehicles so that they attract lower VED charges.
The MTPLM is always the critical maximum weight that enforcement officers will use.
As an aside yesterday someone on CT asked for advice on an 16 year old Hymer Nova they'd just bought. It's weight plate stated the MTPLM was 1517kg and the axle limit 1800kg, however it seems that reviews at the time stated that the MIRO was 1517kg and the MTPLM was 1800kg. It therefore seems that the van has been run for 16 years with an error on its weight plate. Legally it's empty weight is it's MTPLM and therefore it cannot run on public roads with any load on board, even it's motor mover puts it over it's limit.
The van was originally supplied by Lowdhams but the plate would have been applied by Bad Waldsee. The owner has spoken to Lowdhams, who fobbed him off. He's going to have another go at them and if they refuse to act he'll try to get an amended plate from Bad Waldsee.
Interestingly the listed MIRO for that model is 1340kg and it seems that all the options added to bring it to Lowdhams UK spec. added 177kg to get to 1517kg. That did include an oven and microwave plus a lot of other stuff.

Thank you for your replies
I'm sure we will never exceed the MTPLM
As we travel very light in the caravan just basics
All the weight is in the tow vehicle so not a problem
Good interesting replies
Again thank you
Regards Paul

Good morning
Sat down with a cuppa tea this morning and went through the configuration and that was a shock £34220
Then gas clothes cooking utensils pans ect
Colin your absolutely right I thought I was traveling light especially when I took a look at you itinerary. That is a excellent idea
Massive thanks Paul

I've just sat down and compared your weight spreadsheet to mine Colin.

There are some variances in weights and a few items I've not listed but you had and also some the other way around.

Things I can't find on your list:
Aquaroll
Wastemaster
Awning carpet
Windbreaks
Books & magazines
Drinks
Footwear

On the other hand, things you list which I'd forgotten to account for:
Mugs & glasses
Kettle (we are a toast free zone in the van)
Cleaning fluids
Toilet chemicals
Throws
Watering can
Dustpan & brush
Aquaroll hose/Collapz waste system

There are also a number of things you load that we don't:
Bike rack
Iron & board
Toaster
Induction hob
Stools
Topper
Electric heater
Jack

I shall be reviewing my spreadsheet accordingly.

Is it April?

This surely can't be right, I'm partially agreeing with Mr Pue.

I use a Collapz watering can, none of your pound shop tatt, but I'm sure it doesn't weigh a whole kg. Maybe the big steel ones do though. As for 2kg for a dustpan and brush that does seem a tad on the weighty side.

Back in the day when we lived in North Yorkshire I could weigh the van at the Harrogate Borough depot but in the last 14 years down here near Keele Uni I have no idea where there might be a weighbridge.

Bentley factory?
Mornflake oat mill?
AO warehouse?
Emma Bridgewater's pottery?
JCB's plant?
Bargain Booze distribution centre?
Rymans head office?

PS one of the great benefits of spreadsheets is they do the totting Up for you.

I’ve used Michelin weighbridge in Stoke on Trent which should be near to SDA. But if someone wants to find one it’s easier enough to locate on Google.
Less time than weighing the items listed above and then recording them etc. #lifetooshort

Some years ago, after having loaded the van prior to leaving on holiday, I took it to the local weighbridge and was a bit gobsmacked to find I was well over the weight limit - 1100KG on a 1000Kg axle. I still went off on my travels, though, as I wasn't loaded any differently from previous trips. However, it did lead me to an axle upgrade later.

For the sake of a relatvely small outlay, I do suggest that you give it thought when your van is loaded ready for departure... at least you will know where you stand...

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I think a weighbridge is an excellent idea. Have a look here:- https://www.gov.uk/find-weighbridge
I rounded the watering can weight up as I knew I would underestimate somewhere else, eg Mrs eribaMotters clothes.

Colin

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