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Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:28 pm
by bilko (deleted)
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Just traded in my very basic 1991 Troll for a 2008 Troll 540GT and when plugging into mains there is a humming noise in the battery area which is annoying at night. I assume its the battery charger and wondered if this can be switched off or a switch installed.


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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:39 pm
by Agger (deleted)
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Have you checked to make sure the fitments are tight? and not resonating? Just a thought, I have a cover on my fuzes that is taped specifically to stop this type of noise


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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:58 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

It probably comes from 'loose windings on the mains transformer' in the charging system. Not a problem, but annoying I agree. My system makes this noise when charging a battery if it is a bit low on charge - however since I keep the system on most of the time, maintaining full charge when laid-up, I no longer get the 'hum' !
You should, of course, follow Agger's advice and check security of all the fitments :)

Hope it goes away :)


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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:06 pm
by Randa france | 13.261 Posts

That's interesting information Martin.
From what you are saying, once the battery is fully charged then the noise will stop (presumably because the battery charger has shut down), so, would it be fair to say that if it continues then the battery could be u.s.?
Incidentally, we've never experienced the noise described in our Troll.
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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:28 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

I'm assuming that whilst the battery is fully charged it will continue to 'trickle - charge' rather than shut down - thus only a very small current is flowing, but when a full charge rate is required, heavier current flow causes the 'transformer windings' to chatter, maybe because they're getting hotter as more current flows ?

This is only surmise from my point of view ! !

It is possible that the battery never reaches 'full' so the heavier current continues all the time. A battery charge check would answer this. I suppose disconnecting the battery, stopping the current flow, would indicate if the noise is caused by the charging current flow ?

I have to say that these are only my own ideas - don't take it as fact !!!!!

Any more ideas any one !


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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:31 pm
by bilko (deleted)
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Humming is coming from charger as noise changes when placing my hand firmly on top. Charger is a SCHAUDT LA1210 and wiring also goes to a little box labelled JQX - 10FH. The charger has removable + and - red and blue leads and the little box has a yellow switch on the top. Tempted to try pulling / switching but hope to receive more info beforehand. I will try and download pics !

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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:06 pm
by Randa france | 13.261 Posts

Hi Bilko, I can't help you with this I'm afraid because our Troll has an entirely different charging system to the norm. Presumably, yours will look a lot like other member's set ups.
While we are waiting for confirmation though, I've been reading about charger unit humming on various "wobbly box" caravan forums and it does seem to be normal. What a number of people have suggested is to unbolt the unit and sit it onto a rubber mat, then use rubber washers when re-fitting it, "to stop it resonating and using the floor as a sound box".
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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:21 pm
by bilko (deleted)
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Hi Randa, yes I will try some insulation on top first and allow ventilation.


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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:08 pm
by bilko (deleted)
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Hi Randa, After removing the cover and unscrewing unit from floor there is hardly any noise. I will try using strips of door rubber draught excluder to isolate from floor and consider leaving cover off. Ta.


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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:17 pm
by Agger (deleted)
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You could always use the round door stops? They have a screw fitting and could be cut to size?


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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:02 pm
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: bilko wrote in post #9
I will try using strips of door rubber draught excluder to isolate from floor and consider leaving cover off.
You might try open rubber cable grommets like these. Sandwich an appropriately-sized one on the screw shank between the case and the floor before remounting to kill the resonance.

Halfords do boxes of assorted grommets, and they're always handy to have.



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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:09 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

I agree with Pete. If you use some nice fat grommets and don't tighten the mounting screws down too tightly, they should do the job a treat.


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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:52 pm
by bilko (deleted)
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Great tips. Many thanks. Another thought - instead of screws, using the strong thick double sided tape for fixing number plates as sold in Halfords.


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RE: Battery charger "humming" noise

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:36 am
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: bilko wrote in post #13
Another thought - instead of screws, using the strong thick double sided tape for fixing number plates as sold in Halfords.
Grommets. Try grommets first.

If you start with double-sided tape and that doesn't work, you'll have a gooey mess to clean off.

If your first grommet experiment is less successful than you (or we) hoped, you can try fatter ones. On longer screws, if necessary.

If you're concerned about the screws transmitting the resonance, use a smaller grommet as a washer under the screw head before passing it through the mounting holes and then use another fatter one between the bottom of the unit and the floor. That way the screw isn't in rigid contact with the unit at all.

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