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Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:08 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

On the only day in three and a half years that I've needed my rear fog light and, to my shame, the first time I've actually checked it, the pre-flight check showed that it wasn't working. I didn't have time to investigate further so we had to set off in dense fog for the Channel Tunnel without a fog light.

As soon as I removed the cover this morning the reason for the failure was obvious; the contacts on the bulb and bulb holder were badly corroded. I removed the whole unit (only two screws hold it to the bodywork) and set to work with emery paper and a file until everything was gleaming bright again.

I checked that the bulb was OK with a bit of wire across the car battery and then put everything back together. What I did notice was that the plastic lens on the light doesn't have a rubber sealing gasket and that there was moisture in the lamp unit. This was obviously the cause of the corrosion over the past 13 years.

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I then tested for continuity in the circuit by connecting my multimeter (set to resistance) across pins 2 and 3 on the caravan 13 pin socket and everything was OK. See this link for the pin numberings: 13 pin socket.

To be absolutely certain that all was well I then connected the electrics to the car and switched on. All was operating as it should. It's a fix!

The problem now was how to seal the unit so that water couldn't get in? My first thought was to strip the insulation off a piece of wire, split it lengthways and then fit it over the edge of the plastic with the joint at the bottom. When I mentioned this to Mrs Calder, however, she said without hesitation, "Why don't you use a rubber band?" and then produced one of exactly the right size from the kitchen drawer. She can either be a) frighteningly practical on occasions or b) a bit of a smartarse. In this case it was definitely an a but with a hint of b..

So, that's what I've done. Obviously, the rubber band will perish over time but it's such an easy thing to replace that it's not really an issue.

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Before the bad winter weather starts, could I suggest that you check that your fog light is working and if necessary give the bulb and its contacts a good cleaning? The high intensity light from your fog light could give that vital second or two extra braking time for someone coming up behind you and help prevent a nasty accident.


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:22 am
by Steamdrivenandy (deleted)
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I recall a service on our '01 Troll a couple of years back when the mobile servicing guy checked the rear lights and the fog wasn't working. His first action was to thump the van with the flat of his hand near the offending lamp. As if by magic the lamp lit up. His only comment, a laconic 'that's what 20 years in caravan servicing teaches you'.


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:52 am
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #1
...the contacts on the bulb and bulb holder were badly corroded. I removed the whole unit (only two screws hold it to the bodywork) and set to work with emery paper and a file until everything was gleaming bright again.

I checked that the bulb was OK with a bit of wire across the car battery and then put everything back together.
For what it's worth - and even bearing in mind that it's probably been on less than a handful of times in its long life, I reckon I'd have replaced the bulb at the same time. They only cost a few bob, after all.

In removing the corrosion you'll make it corrode again more quickly too, notwithstanding your whizzo gasket.

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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:05 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Sound advice, Pete.

I'll fit a new bulb in a couple of days.


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:09 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: Steamdrivenandy wrote in post #2
I recall a service on our '01 Troll a couple of years back when the mobile servicing guy checked the rear lights and the fog wasn't working. His first action was to thump the van with the flat of his hand near the offending lamp. As if by magic the lamp lit up. His only comment, a laconic 'that's what 20 years in caravan servicing teaches you'.
Oh, I thumped it, mate, but it wasn't having any. The corrosion was too far advanced.

By coincidence, when I turned on the car lights this morning to do the test I got a message on the dashboard telling me a number plate bulb had failed. One thump later and it was 'fixed'.


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:21 pm
by Pop540 (deleted)
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the lights are about £25 for each pod, at our local caravan place, worth de rusting


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:30 pm
by Agger (deleted)
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I drilled a small hole in the red bottom.part which allows condensation to run out, sealed it with electricians tape after

I check ALL my lights before setting off, it's part of my responsi ility to other road users


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:39 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: Agger wrote in post #7
I check ALL my lights before setting off, it's part of my responsi ility to other road users
Good point, Graham, and made with only the merest whiff of sanctimony.


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:41 pm
by Agger (deleted)
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Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #8
Quote: Agger wrote in post #7
I check ALL my lights before setting off, it's part of my responsi ility to other road users
Good point, Graham, and made with only the merest whiff of sanctimony.


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:51 pm
by Peter Smith (deleted)
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The guy I bought Lulu off had it serviced, on the sheet it said number plate bulb r/h side not working, gave it a thump, nothing happened. Took the cover off, no bulb!


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:54 pm
by Agger (deleted)
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The previous owner may have had a failure and used it in a more important place, just a thought as the rear number plate has 2 bulbs 1 on either side ORat least mine does


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:11 pm
by Pop540 (deleted)
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its worth taking all covers off to inspect bulbs, notice out top front lights were dull,
when cover was removed both bulbs were black!!!! but still working, decided to change them.. assume they have been in from new (11years)


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RE: Rear fog lamp problems

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:42 pm
by Morphy | 972 Posts

Just a quick update regarding fog lights mine did not work on further inspection the complete inside was rusty and rotten. I priced replacement up from Jandy who informed me that Jokin the original manufacture no longer did them Hella do one similar at a cost of £52. I almost ordered one then thought hang on at the end of the day it is the same as one off a trailer board. I found one very near almost identical size at halfords for £7.50.

Now on opening the light the fixing of the light to the caravan was no way near like the Jokin. No holes at all to be able to screw to the caravan Hmmmmmmm! then I remembered I had some industrial strength Velcro inside/outside use. So I sealed the original screw holes on the caravan measured and stuck the Velcro to the rear of the fog light then pealed the protective paper off the other side of the Velcro and stuck the whole unit to the van perfect. I had already used a connector block and some new wire to the original wiring. Works for me so if you find yourself in the same position a cheap fix if you struggling drop us a message I will help if I can. Morphy


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