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Brake problems Familia

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:32 pm
by Poptop320 | 2.631 Posts

I have just returned from my last trip of the year, however it wasn't without its hic-cups, hopefully the rest of you can gleam some info .....

On arrival to our destination 70 miles from home I noticed that my wheel nut indicators on my door side were all over the place and I could smell the brakes, on touching the wheel it was very hot and the plastic wheel indicators had melted around the nuts which was why they were pointing in different directions . It was also my first trip out since the Eribas annual service two months previous ....

I'm in Mayday CC rescue so I thought I would use them as I didn't fancy travelling home with dodgy brakes. the Mayday mechanic turned up and diagnosed that the brakes shoes were touching the drum but he was unable to adjust the brakes with the nut at the back of the brake plate. The mechanic was going to remove the drum to inspect the mechanism, I asked him did he have another one shot bolt to replace it with to which he replied that he had never heard of them, so his answer was no. With that he had to leave and recommended a caravan engineer should inspect the fault. If I couldn't get it fixed Mayday would have trailered my Eriba home when my break was finished.

Anyway to cut a long story short I got hold of a local approved workshop mobile Engineer who diagnosed that the adjuster nut had lost a tooth and it was impossible to alter the brakes once the external nut that locates in the adjuster had fallen into the gap, it is basically two cogs at 90 deg. Possibly damaged at the last service..... allegedly, however to be fair I never noticed any issues driving the 25 miles home from the caravan workshop? I also usually keep the hand brake in the off position when at home and chock the van to avoid the brakes sticking.

I learnt two things:

1) Be careful and vigilant if you have a car mechanic fixing your caravan
2) The wheel nut indicators made it very obvious that something was wrong

If you have an earlier Eriba it will more than likely have a castellated nut with a split pin so the one shot nut scenario wont apply.


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RE: Brake problems Familia

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:18 pm
by Randa france | 13.256 Posts


Wheel nut indicators . I've not heard of these before John.
Have you had previous experience of them that caused you to use them on the Eriba?
Randa


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RE: Brake problems Familia

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:33 pm
by Poptop320 | 2.631 Posts

Hi Roger, I always use to check the torque of my wheel nuts before each journey, I never took my bulky torque wrench away with me so I would never know if they had moved for my return journey. With the wheel nut indicators I now only need to torque them the once, as long as they are pointing at each other I don't have to worry about my nuts becoming loose....


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RE: Brake problems Familia

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:37 pm
by Pop540 (deleted)
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i would get someone to check your bearings although the cause was the brake adjusted wrongly via the broken part, the brake over heating can cause the bearing grease to ooze out..
Catterick caravans sell one shot nuts, they took over Ebor caravans on the A64 between York and Scarborough. in a situation like that you could have the eriba put on a low approach slide bed to be recovered to a repairer

I have had to loosen our brakes at 4am on route on jollys, after a service man got a little too over zealous. have every sympathy.
old style car mechanics are ok....


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RE: Brake problems Familia

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:45 pm
by Poptop320 | 2.631 Posts

Quote: Pop540 wrote in post #4
i would get someone to check your bearings although the cause was the brake adjusted wrongly via the broken part, the brake over heating can cause the bearing grease to ooze out..
Catterick caravans sell one shot nuts, they took over Ebor caravans on the A64 between York and Scarborough. in a situation like that you could have the eriba put on a low approach slide bed to be recovered to a repairer




The bearings were fine, that was the main reason why I called somebody out as I didn't want the bearings to collapse or the tyre to burst with the heat on my return journey. The approved workshop mobile engineer went out his way and called twice as he had to order the part, otherwise we would have been sleeping in a workshop yard while it was been repaired...


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RE: Brake problems Familia

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:28 am
by Randa france | 13.256 Posts

I've heard of a few Eriba owners and other caravanners, carrying a spare one shot nut. After your experience, it would seem to make sense to do so. Are they a standard size?
The other thing is do you know why the brake shoes suddenly tightened? Is it to do with the missing tooth on the adjustment cog causing movement when travelling or do you think that they were wrongly adjusted by your service engineer?
I seem to remember when we had our van serviced a couple of months ago, the service engineer reckoned that the brakes were adjusted too tightly although I hadn't noticed anything untoward previously.
I didn't notice anything different after he re-adjusted them either.
Don't know why, but I always check the wheel temperature of the van and look at the tyres, check the hitches, check the windows,check the door and Thetford locker, wobble the van, every time we stop for a pee break. OCD?
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RE: Brake problems Familia

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:45 am
by Agger (deleted)
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Quote: Randa france wrote in post #6
Don't know why, but I always check the wheel temperature of the van and look at the tyres, check the hitches, check the windows,check the door and Thetford locker, wobble the van, every time we stop for a pee break. OCD?
Randa


I do exactly the same! We normally stop every 2 or 3 hours on a longer journey, at nighttime I will always check my lights as well, easy enough to do on your own at night when it's dark I know some see it as OCD but it makes me feel better in the knowledge I've checked. My fellow caravanner across the road was stopped by Police a few months back as he re entered the country, he had checked his lights before leaving the exit port in France, but in the meantime one had failed, brake light. He was allowed to continue after feplacing it (he had spares) but the Police also told him that more and more people are photographing there outfit fully lit up (may take a few photos) that way should they be stopped they can show by the data held in the image (exif) that all was functioning correctly just a short while ago. Don't know if I'd go that far myself but someone might find it useful


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