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Eriba Chassis Inspection:-

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:42 pm
by Eribafolk Admin. (deleted)
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Eric Cox, one of the administrators of the Eriba Owner's Club, has asked us to share this information.

Important Information from the Eriba Owners Club !

Do not store your Eriba Caravan in winter either inside or outside with a heater inside the caravan. Because ? Eriba Caravans are constructed using steel box sections, if its warm inside and cold outside you get condensation forming in the inside of the box sections. The inside of the box sections are uncoated steel ! So they rot from the inside. Also if you use a heater in your caravan when stored outside in winter you also have the chance of condensation inside the caravan. The solution :- no heat in your caravan in winter when in storage.

Corroded Chassis ? A former member of the Eriba Owners Club, Ken Mort of Congleton, Cheshire who has owned a 1994 Eriba Puck from new, recently contacted me. He told me that he thought his Puck had come to the end of its life because of a badly corroded outer box section but luckily he had found a company which has replaced / welded new box sections in where required, carried out an internal inspection with camera of all remaining box sections and wax oiled the internal box sections. He tells me his Puck is now back to new condition and ready for another twenty years service.

The company is M P H Services, Car Restorers, Fox Street Garage, Congleton. CW12 1RF Proprietor :- Martin. P. Howell.
Tel : 01260 -271649 Mobile 0796 6219596 Email :- info@mphvehiclerepairs.co.uk www.mphvehiclerepairs.co.uk
Martin the Proprietor of the company says it is just the type of work they do ! no problems to them ! Cost ? Depends on what’s required size of caravan etc ? but you can expect £600 to £1000 depending on what repairs are required.

I have recently visited M P H Services. Martin tells me regardless of the age of the caravan. Ian who is his caravan restorer can fit access manifolds in the outer box sections then carry out an internal inspection with a camera of all the outer box sections including supplying a CD and inspection report. If there is no appreciable corrosion and no repairs are required they will then wax oil the inner box sections. They also will spray wax oil in all appropriate places under the caravan.
The Cost :- £150 including vat.
They inform me that if repairs are required the cost of the inspection will be allowed for.

MPH also service and repair vintage caravans. Brakes, wheel bearings, running gear, etc Contact MPH to see if they can solve any of your problems.

The writers opinion ! Anything up to £1000 cost of repair is worth it because – you will always get at least £2000 for a road worthy Eriba caravan but nothing for a knackered one ?



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RE: Eriba Chassis Inspection:-

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:12 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

I confess to being confused by this.

If, as the writer suggests, heating the inside of the van in cold weather causes interstitial condensation in the chassis members and hence premature deterioration of the box sections, how is this different from using the van all year round and heating the interior for comfort when on site in cold weather? Surely the same end result would occur. Are we expected to sit and shiver in the interests of chassis longevity? I think not.

As only the one example of this occurrence has been cited, it is by no means 'proof'. At best it is a theory. So, does anyone know of any other similar cases or of any independent testing that has been done?

Last winter our van was stored in the back garden under a Protec cover from October to March with no heating resulting in quite severe mould and mildew growth in the interior (I posted pictures of this). This year, in an attempt to prevent a recurrence, I have left the cover off (to improve ventilation) and put an 800W oil-filled electric radiator in the van on a low thermostatic setting to maintain an even temperature and prevent the development of surface cold spots where condensation can occur. This is what the Caravan Club recommends (but I do think that their advice to place bowls of 'moisture absorbing crystals' in the van is barmy.)

So far there are no signs of condensation or mould/mildew formation in our van. Who knows about the inside of box sections?


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RE: Eriba Chassis Inspection:-

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:03 pm
by Argie (deleted)
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I'm glad that I wasn't the only person confused by this Aaron..... The point you make regarding winter use was the first thought I had, but being a newbie to the world of the Eriba I thought that I would see what more experienced Eribarists came back with..


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RE: Eriba Chassis Inspection:-

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:26 pm
by MCINND (deleted)
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I read the initial posting early this morning and thought - no that can't be correct and left it at that.
Now reading again over lunchtime I'm glad that others are like minded.
To be honest I thought it to be a load of tosh.

David


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RE: Eriba Chassis Inspection:-

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:52 pm
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #2
I confess to being confused by this.

If, as the writer suggests, heating the inside of the van in cold weather causes interstitial condensation in the chassis members and hence premature deterioration of the box sections, how is this different from using the van all year round and heating the interior for comfort when on site in cold weather? Surely the same end result would occur.
Impeccable logic, Moriarty.

Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #2
(but I do think that their advice to place bowls of 'moisture absorbing crystals' in the van is barmy.)
I do too. Even barmier is putting an electric dehumidifier in there and leaving it switched on for months on end.

If the van was a sealed Tupperware box and wringing wet inside it might be worth it for a short time, but it isn't. If the van is wetter inside than the ambient levels of humidity outside - like it might be if you'd had a hosepipe in it and the nozzle blew off while you went to the pictures - then a dehumidifier will help.

Once the humidity level inside is the same as it is outside - which will be most of the time, because the caravan isn't a sealed container - all you're doing is attempting to dehumidify the Earth's atmosphere in its entirety.

Like the whole thing; where you are, here, there, the rain forest in Borneo, New Orleans, Mrs McTavish's back garden in Cumbernauld, The Maracanã Stadium and even Stoke Poges.

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RE: Eriba Chassis Inspection:-

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:32 pm
by crow (deleted)
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The only reasonable suggestion regarding the chassis was to store
the caravan nose slightly up, based on the fact that it is cheaper and
easier to weld and replace the steelwork at the rear of the Eriba.


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RE: Eriba Chassis Inspection:-

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:40 pm
by Frantone (deleted)
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I agree with all that.
It seems to be a case of a one-off being set up as an example of something typical which is BS!

TP


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RE: Eriba Chassis Inspection:-

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:21 pm
by Poptop320 | 2.634 Posts

I agree with Aaron's comments, however if the condensation theory is correct then the reverse should also apply, external heat from the sun on a cold flank as the day warms up will cause more condensation than a heated insulated interior...


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RE: Eriba Chassis Inspection:-

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:05 pm
by JohnP (deleted)
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Hi, Our Triton 430 is suffering from rusty bottom chassis rails, unfortunately all round. Does anyone know of a company that can repair this for us in the South West of the UK. The information on MPH Services above sounds excellent, but it's a long way from Devon! Thanks.


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