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Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:35 pm
by Charlotte Smith (deleted)
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Hi

Could I ask for any knowledge on which size gas bottle to have for our 1979 Triton? We have bought it without any bottles. I have measured the diameter of where they sit at the front which is approximately 20cm. Looking at the Butane bottle for 7kg and 4.5 kg, their diameter's are over 20cm. Does anyone have an Eriba of this age, if so which bottle do they use?

Many thanks for your help!

KR

Charlotte


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:47 pm
by Taffy (deleted)
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Hi Charlotte, I would have thought all eriabs take the same but someone else can confirm. My Triton takes two 6KG Propanes.


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:24 pm
by Charlotte Smith (deleted)
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Hi Taffy,

Many thanks, maybe my measuring wasn't too accurate!


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:16 pm
by Charlotte Smith (deleted)
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Sorry, forgot to mention our van is a dutch import, we have a feeling the previous owners were using Campingaz as the dimensions seem closer to 20cm diameter which is what our measured our van to be..


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:52 pm
by Taffy (deleted)
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Hi, my triton is a 2008 and takes two of this size/type, although my cupboard is integral whereas I think yours is the external one?.
http://www.calor.co.uk/shop/gas-bottles/...gas-bottle.html

You mention camping gas but i think it is the fixings that differ and if your van is an import then it may be you need change the regulator to take the propane bottles. Hopefully some more experienced will confirm.

Here is an instruction book which I think is across all the touring range. there is a little info about gas but I at a quick glance could see nothing specific regarding bottle sizes.
http://www.325099.co.uk/Eriba.pdf

Also this info is on another web site:
http://www.eribaforum.co.uk/eriba%20amiga/otr_gas.html

Or you could ring one of the dealers such as AL and ask them for advice.



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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:19 pm
by Charlotte Smith (deleted)
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Thank you for your info, I think we'll ring AL like you suggest. Many thanks!


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:24 pm
by jimbud (deleted)
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You say you don't have gas bottles to exchange for refill. Be warned .... If you choose campingaz, you may want to check the price of the bottles to get you started they have always been much more expensive then Butane/Propane bottles. Also, Butane/Propane is much more economical to run.

You will have to buy the appropriate regulator for the gas you decide to use.

Don't know if you intend using your van in the winter, but if you are, the other thing to remember is that Butane can freeze with low temperatures...... Propane will not.

We use two 6KG Propane in our Triton.

Jim


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:53 pm
by facade (deleted)
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If you take a look at the calor gas website, they give the dimensions of all the (bottles) cylinders they sell.

http://www.calor.co.uk/gas-bottles/buyin...hich-gas-bottle

Be warned though, that they cost a fortune the first time, as you have to pay a "refill agreement" to get the bottle.
The rules have changed, such that you cannot swap any bottle out for any other, they are now in lots of different groups, and moving between groups means paying the refill agreement again even though it is the same price.

http://www.calor.co.uk/gas-bottles/buyin...changes-returns

You can swap propane for butane though on the same size.

The 6kg calor lite is very popular (and in a group of its own), but also very hard to get hold of, Pucks tend to use the 3.9kg, as the 6kg is quite heavy on the towbar.

If you pop down the local recycling and speak to the nice men (the traditional "drink") there is a compound full of empty bottles people throw away to go back to the supplier, and they might turn round whilst you collect one. Once you have an empty, you are away.

Don't worry that it isn't all shiny, as long as it is complete, if ever I get one that is reasonable, at the next exchange I get one that looks like it has been in a war zone.


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:18 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: A guest wrote in post #8
If you pop down the local recycling and speak to the nice men (the traditional "drink") there is a compound full of empty bottles people throw away to go back to the supplier, and they might turn round whilst you collect one. Once you have an empty, you are away.
Sound advice. That's what I'd do.

I picked up a full Campingaz 907 cylinder from our local tip for £2 in mid 2014 and have already had three months touring use from the Cadac with it and I reckon it's still about half full. I've also had partly-filled Calor bottles in the past for around a fiver, the last one so I could do a swap at a dealer's for a lightweight propane cylinder for the Eriba.

I noticed in a supermarket in France last month that a refill for a Campingaz 907 was in the region of €21 while a new cylinder was about €50 (Gulp!) so a second-hand cylinder represents a real saving.


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:32 pm
by Charlotte Smith (deleted)
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Is it possible to buy an adaptor to ft onto our GOK EN61 regulator, which I presume is fit only for euro bottles, so that it will fit UK bottles or do we need to buy a new regulator?


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:51 pm
by facade (deleted)
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A new calor type regulator is only about £7. (Don't waste money on ones with a gauge, the gauge measures temperature, and indicates green until the cooker goes out) choose from propane (red- male thread) or butane (blue- female thread or clip-on) to suit the gas in use. I use propane, but you need a builders merchant or proper calor agent to swap the bottles, DIY stores only keep butane and patio gas bottles.

There are plenty of adaptors about, but I don't know which one you need, they look as if they convert a uk regulator to fit a euro bottle to me..


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:43 am
by Wordspace (deleted)
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Quote: jimbud wrote in post #7
Don't know if you intend using your van in the winter, but if you are, the other thing to remember is that Butane can freeze with low temperatures...... Propane will not.
You'd be surprised at how high that freezing point is, too. We were on a site on the south coast just over two weeks ago, and one morning it felt chilly enough to put the Truma heater on before we got up. It didn't seem to get very warm, and when I turned on the hob to boil a kettle the flame just spluttered and kept dying. I looked at the thermometer on the wall and found that it was at about 4degC but had been down to zero during the night. But as soon as the sun came up the gas (butane) sorted itself out. The other side to the butane/propane equation, so I'm told, is that butane gives a hotter flame than does propane. So I suppose it's six of one and half a dozen of the other.


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:09 pm
by facade (deleted)
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Quote: Wordspace wrote in post #12
[ The other side to the butane/propane equation, so I'm told, is that butane gives a hotter flame than does propane. So I suppose it's six of one and half a dozen of the other.


It is only a few degrees, but propane has a higher speed of combustion, and is supposed to transfer heat faster. The only downside I can see is propane smells differently, and gives a yellow tipped flame. It doesn't produce more soot though.

Can't really see why butane has any application outside gas lighters and tiny blowlamps, it is more costly to produce, and gives less heat per kg.
Butane does have a much lower vapour pressure ( about 10psi at room temp compared to nearer 100 for propane ) which is why the plastic tanks of cheap lighters don't burst, but will if filled with propane.

However, you pick one and stick with it as the regulators are not interchangeable, but caravan cookers run off either.


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:37 pm
by archersutton (deleted)
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Because we tend to caravan in all weathers, it's been Propane for us since we had a terrible time about 10 year's ago at a CL in Staffordshire (-5), and then, on the same trip, -3 and heavy snow at Moreton-in-Marsh CC site.
Re: Spare bottle for filling: Our scout group, over the year's, have accumulated loads of gas bottles, most of which we never use. I wouldn't be surprised if that's not the case with most groups.


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RE: Which size gas bottle?

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:38 pm
by Eribanut | 2.026 Posts

Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #9
Quote: facade wrote in post #8
If you pop down the local recycling and speak to the nice men (the traditional "drink") there is a compound full of empty bottles people throw away to go back to the supplier, and they might turn round whilst you collect one. Once you have an empty, you are away.
Sound advice. That's what I'd do.

I picked up a full Campingaz 907 cylinder from our local tip for £2 in mid 2014 and have already had three months touring use from the Cadac with it and I reckon it's still about half full. I've also had partly-filled Calor bottles in the past for around a fiver, the last one so I could do a swap at a dealer's for a lightweight propane cylinder for the Eriba.

I noticed in a supermarket in France last month that a refill for a Campingaz 907 was in the region of €21 while a new cylinder was about €50 (Gulp!) so a second-hand cylinder represents a real saving.


You is lucky Mr Calder as our local tip will not give/sell any empty bottles even though they have a stack of them. (Health and Safety).


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