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Paint finish sealer

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:42 am
by Bigmandiddyvan (deleted)
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Good morning folks, we are in the process of replacing our 2008 Troll 550 for a new Troll 540, during the purchase chat such as what I do and don't want with the van I was offered a product called paint seal which I think is a Teflon based product similar to the type put onto cars but at £400 including fabric protection, (silly money, I nearly spat my coffee out when he told me). When I bought my tow car it had already been treated with a similar product and after 3 years the water still beads off and I have never had to polish it. Has anyone ever had this product applied to there Eriba? Looking on the internet I found a similar product on Amazon with good reviews (it is a 2 stage product), all for £20 or near as damn it, bit of a price difference but is it as good? Your opinions are always welcome. Just want to keep the Eriba looking like new. Thanks, Brian.


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RE: Paint finish sealer

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:50 am
by Eric (deleted)
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Well I can onl repeat what I was told by a colleague who was a sales manager for Audi, they charged £350.0 for a bottle they purchased for £18.0 it was a way of boosting the monthly figures, if the paint needed protecting manufactures would use it in his words "complete and utter rip off " at the price they charge for it.


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RE: Paint finish sealer

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:01 am
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

The whole issue of paint sealants and whether or not they're worth spending money on fills an awful lot of the Internet, that's for sure.

For what it's worth I wouldn't bother with it, and certainly not for the outside of whatever vehicle it is. I wouldn't go as far as to suggest that these things are all snake oil, but I can't help feeling that there is a degree of disingenuousness when companies claim that the 'Teflon (or PTFE)-based' coating 'bonds' to the surface, making it 'repel' dirt and stains and sap and bird doings and smushed insects and stuff.

If nothing sticks to Teflon, how does the Teflon stick to whatever you apply it to?

Apparently a PTFE coating can be made to bond to a surface, but that bonding involves a temperature well in excess of 300°C...

The issue that Eric alluded to is another one entirely, and there are many, many tales - some anecdotal, some not - of the mark up (dealer profit) involved. I'd be surprised if a dealer paid anywhere near as much as you'd get charged if you arranged to get the treatment done yourself.

On the other hand, a less cynical cove might point to the number of peeps who are absolutely delighted with their paint treatment and feel that it was worth every penny of the four hundred notes it cost.

If you were thinking of going down the self-application route (rather than pay someone else the bulk of that £400 for their labour), one thing worth considering is that the key word is preparation.

The item being treated must be scrupulously clean - like no wax residue or anything - and you should really do it inside a building where dust and grit can't be blown on to the surface while you're busily buffing. Lots of new car owners - lots of new car owners - have complained that after the treatment their pride and joy has swirls and scratches sealed into the finish thanks to poor preparation by supposedly professional valeters.

I'd stick with spending an awful lot less on some good quality car shampoo, polish and wax, two new black rubber buckets, a handful of sponges and an armful of decent microfibre cloths.

I reckon there really isn't a shortcut to cleaning a vehicle properly. If you buy something that promises you only have to clean once every umpteen years, you miss out on the opportunity to check for the stone chips and other damage that you would spot immediately in the course of routine cleaning.

And one last thing. These 'professionally-applied' sealants come with a five year guarantee. A five year guarantee of what, exactly? A five year guarantee that your caravan won't get dirty or that if you happen to be following a muckspreader down a country lane all the cowsh*t will just fall off?

I think if I were you I'd save my money and spend it on something really useful like wine.

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RE: Paint finish sealer

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:29 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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I apply Fenwicks Bobby Dazzler to the caravan using a gallon spray container that we used to spray the garden roses with.......when we had roses that is. Spray on from the top, let it all run down and job done. I only started using it as a result of reading a few posts on here and have to say am pretty darn impressed with how effective it is. http://fenwicks.info/caravan/index.php/products

On the car I use this stuff which is truly amazing. Easy to apply, resists bugs etc from sticking to the paintwork and remains effective for at least 3-4 car washes. http://www.amazon.co.uk/SONAX-222100-Xtr...otect+and+shine


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RE: Paint finish sealer

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:16 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

It's just a 'profit adding ' technique by the vehicle Seller . If you have a 'smooth finish ' Eriba, wash thoroughly and use a good quality polish and maybe follow with a final finish such as made by Autoglyn ' Extra Shine Protection'. Or, If, like me, you've a dimple finish van, or indeed smooth finish, clean and treat with 'Bobby Dazzler ' Just my advice from working in the car sales trade, and my Eriba experience


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RE: Paint finish sealer

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:24 pm
by Bigmandiddyvan (deleted)
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Thx for all replies, as usual very helpful, I guess the sensible route is to wash and clean the old fashion way, many thanks again for taking the time out to respond Brian.


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