Punctures
Understandably there's a lot of discussion about the best (and safest) way to jack one of these vans up if you're in the unfortunate position of having to change wheel yourself, but I wonder how many peeps on here have actually had to do it?
I haven't, but then I haven't done anywhere near the kind of towing mileage that lots of you have, and it goes without saying that the more miles you cover the more likely you are to have a puncture.
That said, I've never had to change a wheel on a car mid-journey because of a puncture in the forty-odd years I've been driving, either. There are quite few occasions when I've caught something in the tread - usually a screw, and most frequently a self-tapper - but on none of those occasions was the result a sudden or calamitous loss of pressure. Thankfully.
I guess I've been lucky, and Sod's Law says I'll get a flat today.
I'd have thought that statistically you're actually quite unlikely to have a puncture in a caravan tyre, assuming that the tyre is properly inflated, not damaged or over-aged and has plenty of tread. Its path is pretty much cleared by two wheels on the car, apart from anything else...
So to play the devil's advocate for a minute - and making that assumption about having sound and well-maintained tyres - would you consider not carrying a jack and a spare wheel for the van at all? You can't carry enough replacement parts to cover every single eventuality, so given the statistical likelihood of a puncture, are you carrying a heavy and awkward-to-get-at spare and quite possibly a less than ideal jack when you needn't be?
And there's one other thing - while I'm guessing that most if not all of the people on here do carry a spare, is it not the case that a spare is technically an option on new vans and not actually standard equipment anyway?
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LD15-P8r
I agree with Pepe let Pew, but my new Troll has a spare fitted as standard and it's nice to know that I can give it to the breakdown man so we can quickly get on our way without sourcing a replacement.
We did have a spare in our PuckL and Neil did have to change it once in France. Mind you it was his fault, he clipped the kerb as we were parking up in an aire. There was an almighty bang and the tyre was sat there, flat, with a big hole in the side wall. We carry a very small jack which he was able to whip under the van sharpish and change the tyre. Understand exactly what you say Pete from a statistical point of view but for the rest of that holiday I worried that we didn't now have a spare as it was in use. We didn't need it, got a new tyre back in the UK and didn't need it again.
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RE: Punctures
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:57 amby Randa france • | 13.285 Posts
We had to change a wheel on the Eriba once in the safety of a Barcelona campsite. It was after an incidence of unexplained rapid tread wear when a tyre that was perfectly good when we left home wore out within 1000 miles (the one on the other side was fine). It could only be put down to tyre age degradation as both were coming up to their 5th birthday.
Using the VW/Audi side jack is a bit hairy as even with the handbrake on, the van will roll back several inches so it's important to remember to push the van backwards AFTER applying the handbrake and BEFORE jacking up.
I would hate to change a wheel on a motorway. Once recently on the M5, after leaving the Gloucester meet , I realised that I hadn't ratcheted up the stabiliser. Stopping on the hard shoulder and getting out of the car was enough. Sod that! I left it until the next service station.
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
Tyre technology has moved on as most things have over the years and I agree its rare to even see a puncture never mind have one yourself these days.
Having said that I would be reluctant to leave at home the probably only two bits of kit which could strand me in either the middle of nowhere or stuck on the side of a motorway with no way of moving on.
So I will continue to carry them even if I may never need them.
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Vauxhall Insignia Sri 1.8 petrol 2015 towing 2006 Triton 430 import
Whilst I don't relish the idea of jacking up the 'van, on the road, to change the wheel, I have practised at home when fitting new tyres - and I don't like doing it, it is so unstable ! Of course it's essential, on the road, to keep the 'van attached to the car,all brakes on and reverse the Eriba and chock other wheel !
However unlikely a puncture may be I always take a spare wheel and jack with me - for emergency I would use my VW Transporter side jack, but at home use a trolly jack under the axle.
So I have a "carry a spare" obsession ! Indeed when I had my last new car I had to specify a "spare" rather than a "repair kit"
Our 2013 Triton 430 came with a spare slung under the back and whilst it's comforting to know it's there should it be needed there is no way in the world that I would consider changing a wheel on the side of the road/motorway myself. There is no jacking point on the Triton leaving only the axle to situate any form of jack and whilst at home, in the safety of storage, I do jack the van up from time to time, it's only to slip tyre savers under the wheels and even here the flat area available for the jack is minimal so no way would I dream of removing a wheel. We pay enough for the annual subscription to breakdown assistance so I'm quite happy to leave the exercise to them despite the unknown delay that it may cause. We always allow for plenty of time when travelling so I don't see any delay as being the ruination of any holiday.
As to the car - no spare wheel here only an emergency sealant kit etc. The same thinking as above applies here really. A spare SUV wheel and accompanying jack would weigh a fair bit and take up precious space and so it's fingers crossed here.
2013 Triton 430, Mazda CX-5 D-150, AWD AT, Walker Touring Plus awning, Isabella Shadow sun shade.
Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #1
And there's one other thing - while I'm guessing that most if not all of the people on here do carry a spare, is it not the case that a spare is technically an option on new vans and not actually standard equipment anyway?
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You are right, technically the spare tyre is an extra, however in the UK most specs are the GT which includes them as the pack. Another thing to bear in mind if you are contemplating changing a tyre is to check that the little padlock is taped up and out of the way. My last van had it dangling down and it caught on the camber of the road bending the shackle which made it impossible to open. I had to cut it off with a hacksaw...
When I go on holiday I like to pop my top!
Giving this a bit more thought. For those that insist/want to carry a spare wheel and accompanying jack even though in most instances there is no actual locating point to place it leaving only the option of jacking under the axle - wouldn't it be prudent to also carry an axle stand to ensure that the van wasn't going to suffer grief in the even of the jack either failing or collapsing as the result of slight movement of the van?
2013 Triton 430, Mazda CX-5 D-150, AWD AT, Walker Touring Plus awning, Isabella Shadow sun shade.
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