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in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:52 pm
by hob (deleted)
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35 psi sounds about right to me.


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in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:00 pm
by hob (deleted)
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Zitat
The tyres I have do have a maximum load of 530kg and my Triton is a 1000kg chassis.



That's why I went for light commercial tyres I wanted a bit more than 30Kg per tyre leeway but 185/70R13 should be fine


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RE: Inexperience !

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:57 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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@ Taffy - looking at the 2013 version of the Eriba Triton manual that I have it states that for tyre size 185/70R L1 86 and with the 1000kg axle tyres should be inflated to 3.0Bar or 43.5psi.

You never mentioned the L1 86 in your post but anyway there is only one listing in the manual for the tyre size 185/R13


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RE: Inexperience !

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:46 pm
by Randa france | 13.258 Posts

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Quote Taffy:-The tyres I have do have a maximum load of 530kg and my Triton is a 1000kg chassis


Those are the same size as mine and are the original spec tyres for a 1000kg van. My feelings are if they were good enough for Eribas when new then they should be good enough now.

As for tyre pressures, I run mine cold at 40psi which is just below the recommendations on the Hymer chart.. However check the max. tyre pressure rating embossed on your tyres. I have discovered that different make tyres which are the same size, speed and load ratings, don't necessarily have the same pressure ratings.

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RE: Inexperience !

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:24 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.585 Posts

Randa:-
"I have discovered that different make tyres which are the same size, speed and load ratings, don't necessarily have the same pressure ratings."

That is why I use the attachment in my reply earlier in this thread. It really is worth members reading it.

Colin


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RE: Inexperience !

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:32 pm
by PooleDweller | 754 Posts

To calculate your tyre pressure do the following

(max weight per wheel / Load Rating for the tyre) x tyre max psi

So for my tyre on a 430 with MTPLM of 1200 185 R 14C 102/100 Q 65psi

Max weight per wheel is 1200/2 = 600
Load Rating for the tyre is 850
Tyre max psi = 65

So 600/850 x 65 = 45.9psi

This is taken from the following article::
http://caravanchronicles.com/guides/calc...r-your-caravan/

This link was taken from a previous message written by Deeps.



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RE: Inexperience !

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:19 am
by eribanaut | 1.228 Posts

Another thing to do is take the van to a public weigh bridge to make sure its not over loaded, when we did ours we found we were 100 k over.
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RE: Inexperience !

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:59 am
by Randa france | 13.258 Posts

Quote: eribaMotters wrote in post #20
Quote Randa:-
"I have discovered that different make tyres which are the same size, speed and load ratings, don't necessarily have the same pressure ratings."

Quote eribaMotters:- That is why I use the attachment in my reply earlier in this thread. It really is worth members reading it.
Colin


There is another version of the attachment that we've used on here previously http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/10228...d-wheels-mo.pdf which more or less says the same thing.

However I think you've missed the point. Identical size tyres need not necessarily have the same tyre pressure limits.

As an example we have had three sets of tyres on our Eriba since we first owned it. All were exactly the same size and speed/weight loading but we went for a different make of tyre on the occasions that we replaced the set. The first set (Dunlop SP's) had a tyre pressure rating of 44psi. The second set (can't remember the make) were only rated at 36psi. The set we have on there now are rated at 51psi.

I would therefore urge folk to check that they are not inflating their tyres above the manufacturer's recommendations for that particular tyre. It's OK for me to put 40psi cold into my tyres and they appear to be doing well on it because the ride is great and they've done more than 12,000 miles in 18 months with little sign of wear.

However, some tyres may not be built to carry that pressure.

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RE: Inexperience !

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:08 am
by Deeps (deleted)
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Quote: Randa france wrote in post #23

I would therefore urge folk to check that they are not inflating their tyres above the manufacturer's recommendations for that particular tyre.


When you say manufaturer's are you referring to the tyre manufacturer or the caravan manufacturer i.e. Hymer? If the latter then I fully agree - after all, they build the darn things and must test tyres and pressures for suitability for all vans in the range.

I wonder sometimes when I read comments that are along the lines of 'I've tried x pressure but the van wheels leave the road' or the van appears unstable etc etc whether in fact it is the tyre pressures that are the root cause of this or if in fact it's the suspension legs that need looking at. I can't for the life of me believe that a few psi either here nor there can effect to a great degree the handling/stability of a caravan but shot or worn suspension legs surely can.



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RE: Inexperience !

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:22 am
by Randa france | 13.258 Posts

Zitat
When you say manufaturer's are you referring to the tyre manufacturer or the caravan manufacturer i.e. Hymer? If the latter then I fully agree - after all, they build the darn things and must test tyres and pressures for suitability for all vans in the range.



I was actually referring to the tyre manufacturers who obviously put the max.psi rating on their tyres for a reason. However I agree that the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations should also be followed.

That is why I've always used the same size tyres and ratings as were originally put on the van and in accordance with the statement in the second paragraph of Colin's attachment. However, Hymer don't seem to be able to make their minds up about tyre pressures but further to that, dependent on which make of tyre you purchase, the max.psi quoted on that tyre may differ to other makes.

Randa


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RE: Inexperience !

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:33 pm
by Toilingtroll (deleted)
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Hi, that's an interesting hairaising experience! Obviously I wasn't there so don't really know what happened (nor at that level 'qualified' but I have a thought to share. I'm led to believe that in overtaking or being overtaken by a vehicle particularly a truck leads to air turbulence between the two. In essence the vehicles get 'sucked' together because the air speeds up between them reducing pressure thus 'sucking' them together. So it might just be possible that overtaking at speed set the snaking off particularly as car and caravan flex in the middle.


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