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yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:03 pm
by danny (deleted)
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hi all, has any one had issues with towing electrics. Our yeti tow bar is being fitted at skoda dealers, the confusion is regarding power to fridge when in transit, anyone else had this problem. cheers


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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:58 am
by eribaMotters | 5.585 Posts

That is the same as my 2014 Yeti. It is normal. The factory fit detachable towbar and 13 pin electrics did not not include power for fridge and caravan battery. The factory fit towing prep is also the same.
The answer is an after market/dealer extra fit.This part alone will probably cost in the region of £200.

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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:44 am
by Deeps (deleted)
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This is an issue that comes up time and time again as concerns vehicles from the VW group; my previous Touran included. If ordering new i.e. not a car on the showroom floor, but directly from the factory, then FULL electrics needs to be specified and this adds a bit to the cost. The reason that full electrics is generally not added by an after-fit is because the cable required for the fridge needs to be run from the front of the vehicle and from a relay at the ignition switch end and this is obviously much easier to achieve whilst the vehicle is being constructed at the factory. This ensures that power to the fridge is only available when the engine is running to prevent the possibility of ending up with a flat battery. If you decide to have the extra run of cable fitted then you should ensure that this cable runs from front to back as described earlier and not simply tapped into the loom at the rear of the vehicle etc. In some vehicle this requires a fair amount of panel removal so be prepared to pay for the extra work involved. Alternatively, if your planned trips aren't going to involve long overnight ferry crossings etc then ensuring that everything you put into the fridge is very cold already in addition to throwing in a few cool blocks should keep the temperature acceptably down.



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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:19 am
by Ray Lawrence | 671 Posts

I ordered a new 4x4 Octavia Estate from the main dealer 6 years ago, still going strong.
I was advised that ordering the 13 pin electrics from the factory was a waste as it did not include battery charging and fridge power. The tow bar was fitted at the dealer's before I picked it up. It was a massive job getting all the trim out from front to back, they broke one piece of trim that had to be replaced. The whole job added £900 to the final price.
I've since had a lot of the trim out myself to fit additional sound proofing, easy when you now how and can find a guide on Youtube :)


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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:59 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

I think it's a good idea to get a quote for a proper job from an independent specialist towbar fitter before specifying 'factory fitted' as you can a) have the identical towbar and dedicated electrics fitted, b) specify exactly what you want it to do and c) save a shed load of money.


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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:16 pm
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #5
I think it's a good idea to get a quote for a proper job from an independent specialist towbar fitter before specifying 'factory fitted' as you can a) have the identical towbar and dedicated electrics fitted, b) specify exactly what you want it to do and c) save a shed load of money.


Indeed so.

If I was thinking about this, the very first phone call I'd make would be to PF Jones.

Those blokes really know their onions.

The other thing I was going to say is that most car dealerships - including franchises - do not fit towbars themselves. For the most part they sub the work out to a local outfit and then add a hefty mark up.

And I mean hefty.

This is not anecdotal. It's a common occurrence.

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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:10 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.585 Posts

I would advise you to visit the briskoda forum on this one. It is not a simple answer/solution.

If you post a request/tag onto one of the many threads on the situation you may well find a dealer/fitter near you.
The annoying issue is the factory fit set-up is very good value at about £450. This includes a detachable swan neck, swing down electrics and a blanking panel for the bumper along with full coding. This is a very neat installation. If you go the dealer fit route [in house or shipped out] using genuine parts and dedicated wiring loom the price is £900/1000, depending upon location. I paid £700 for mine as I had the ache with the dealer because of being given the runaround.
Whichever route you take, you need to get all of the work done before you collect the new car. This ensures it should have a 3 yr warranty in line with your new vehicle, as opposed to a 12 month warranty.

Colin

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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:01 pm
by PhilipM | 208 Posts

Hmm, this has made me think. My 63 Yeti was 6 months old when I got it and I had the tow bar and electrics fitted at a local centre. It was a Westfalia detachable swan neck with fold down electrics. I assumed the fridge was connected. I need to check. I guess I just plug it all in, switch the fridge to battery and see if the blue light is on? However, is this running off the leisure battery and is that being charged by the car, or is it just draining the leisure battery. How does one tell?

Thanks.


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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:33 pm
by danny (deleted)
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thanks everyone for all your input, been very helpful


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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:18 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.585 Posts

PhilipM,
just to confuse you further, the engine of your Yeti does NOT need to be running, you just need the ignition to be turned on. I checked this with Skoda UK because it does not seem to be correct, but that is how it is set up.
If the light comes on your fridge [it may cycle on and off] you are in luck as you have "full functunality" as Skoda call it and as such the power is going to the fridge, and your caravan battery if you have one fitted.
If your car ignition is turned on it would be possible to drain the car battery if you do not run the engine.
I would be very surprised if you could drain your caravan battery as the vans are not set up to run from this battery.

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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:09 pm
by PhilipM | 208 Posts

I'll check after winter - Thanks Colin.


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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:04 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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Quote: eribaMotters wrote in post #10
PhilipM,
just to confuse you further, the engine of your Yeti does NOT need to be running, you just need the ignition to be turned on. I checked this with Skoda UK because it does not seem to be correct, but that is how it is set up.

If your car ignition is turned on it would be possible to drain the car battery if you do not run the engine.





Colin, that sounds to me as though power to the fridge is being provided by Pin 9 (continuous current) which is not in compliance with either the ISO or DIN standards.


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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:43 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.585 Posts

All I know is I went directly through to Skoda UK, customer services, technical and asked WHY. They said because that is how it is wired to work.
It would be fair to say at this point that the customer services dept of the VAG group are not really very useful.
I have raised two other issues with them regarding my Skoda nd my wife's VW and did not get very far.

Colin


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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:26 am
by Bryn | 1.027 Posts

I bought a Skoda Octavia estate with 7 pin electrics from the UK ( the dealer had assured me it was 13 pin???) I arranged for the local NorAuto to change to a 13 pin for the Fridge and interior, after 2 hours they said it would take a further 4 hours and another 200 euros so tey put the panels back as I had another appointment and off I drove.
The towbar fitter in Evesham, UK who I had used to change my previous Berlingo from 7 to 13 has quoted me £140 to change the socket to 13 pin but having now looked at the above post's and the prices paid what questions should I ask if any? I have used them before to fit 2 towbars + electrics (7 pin) and various other electrical fittings, 12volt adapter for the cool box etc


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RE: yeti..towing electrics

in We've got it down to a T Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:57 am
by hob (deleted)
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Zitat
what questions should I ask if any?



For me the important bit is getting the fridge working while being towed, another thing is charging the van battery while towing, a lesser problem if like me you rarely go off grid as I have a built in battery charger with my after market fitted battery which keeps it charged via the site hookups.


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