Thank you all so much, Dafydd has spent all morning checking the noseweight and moving things around, he also filled all the water containers, and hey presto, it has increased from the 30s to nearly 70. We took it for around a 130 kms ride, and what a difference, the problem is sorted, and we appreciate your help very much, If you come to area 47 in France drop in and have a drink with us, db.williams@hotmail.co.uk you will be very welcome, just email us first to see if we are in. Dafydd and Beryl