Hello Nev

My experience, for what it's worth, is that your safest bet is to get LEDs like these.

The voltage to the lighting circuit on our 2008 Troll is (a nominal) 12vAC. That's what the transformer winding produces; it's shown that way on the Eriba manual wiring diagram (for our van at least) and it has nothing to do with whether or not there is a battery fitted. It isn't exactly 12v - it's actually more than that, so bulbs which can accommodate a voltage range (like the ones linked to) and will work on both AC and DC would be your best bet.

Yes, you can get cheaper ones, but they may not like AC (I got some eBay cheapies which most definitely didn't, and they buzzed like buggery), and they may well be polarity-dependent which the dearer ones are not. Were you to opt for the flat circular type rather than what they call the 'pillar' type (above), and you got cheaper polarity-dependent ones, you may well find yourself having to either switch the wires round in the fitting or inelegantly twisting the contact pins to make them work.

It's not worth the faff for the sake of a few quid. Buy AC/DC, non polarity-dependent ones which can cope with a range of voltage and you'll be fine.

There is one other thing. Whatever type you get they will be a little bit bigger than the halogen capsules you are replacing, and you may well find that the ends of the nasty cross-headed bolts which secure the fitting to the bottom of the lockers foul the new bulbs.

I'm sure that shortening a few bolts is comfortably within your range of skills

Pete.

Have you any advice re replacing the bulbs in the awning light? Ours is pretty feeble with the standard bulbs and when I accidentally increased their wattage last year I melted the plastic lens (since replaced.)

An alternative solution might be to rig up a pendant light fitting and lampshade on a length of cable that can be suspended over the table from an awning roof support and plugged into one of the sockets inside the caravan.

We saw a Danish couple dining out under their awning last year in France using the above system and it looked pretty damned good.

Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #3

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Have you any advice re replacing the bulbs in the awning light? Ours is pretty feeble with the standard bulbs and when I accidentally increased their wattage last year I melted the plastic lens (since replaced.)

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Nev!

Nev!

I'm sorry - I had button overload and deleted your last post by mistake!

I'm so sorry.

I'm so horrified I can't even remember what I had said in reply to it!

Oh yes. I remember.

I don't understand why they specified an LED transformer in the spiel. Normally a transformer - or driver - is required if the new LEDs depend on 12v DC dead, and, at least according to what they say, those don't.

I'd stake my microscopic and fast-dwindling reputation on them being just fine.

Identical ones from a place I now cannot recall the name of work faultlessly in our Troll.

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Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #4

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[quote="Aaron Calder"|p4729] Do you happen to remember what kind of bulb is in there from when you "accidentally increased their wattage"?

There are two small glass capsules each with two wire prongs wot push into little holes (G4 fitting?) From memory they are 5W max and I had picked up a couple of 10W bulbs by mistake. I ended up with two melted 'eyeballs in the cover which had yellowed with age and needed replacing anyway. I found one cheap on eBay.

I like the pendant light fitting idea. Like it a lot. I'm thinking chandelier. Big chandelier, with sparkling cascades of tinkling cut glass and dozens of those pointy candle bulbs with the little wriggly filament...

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Quote: hob wrote in post #8

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Don't panic old bean..................

What I said was this one seems to do the job without a transformer so may be the one to get

this one

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[quote="Steamdrivenandy"|p4742 So, of course, a new complete lamp has to be purchased as they don't sell the cover on its own. [/quote]

Oh yes they do, matey! Werbung: Awning light lens

Have a look at his other stuff too!

It's quite common in France to see families sitting around in awnings surrounded (literally) by the contents of their domestic kitchens. Large groups converge and spend whole days sitting around a table talking and eating. These are ordinary families, not 'travellers'.

As they seldom seem to leave the camp site during their protracted stays, I've often wondered why they don't just stay at home.

Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #14

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It's quite common in France to see families sitting around in awnings surrounded (literally) by the contents of their domestic kitchens. Large groups converge and spend whole days sitting around a table talking and eating. These are ordinary families, not 'travellers'.

As they seldom seem to leave the camp site during their protracted stays, I've often wondered why they don't just stay at home.

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