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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:51 am
by Just_Chilin (deleted)
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Hi SDA

You're absolutely correct that nature will eventually create a balance (or state of equilibrium) .... eventually:)

However, if you can extract moisture faster than its being replaced by artificial (manmade) means then you can "cheat" nature and override that balance: a refrigerator is another example of a temporary manmade equilibium override.

That said, if your van is stuck in a field with no access to electricity then youre reasoning is spot on (however if you have access to electric, like I do, then a dehumidifier works just fine:) )

A point to note is that cold temperatures dont necessarily mean high humidity (thats how freeze drying works): as mentioned, warmer air contains more water volume than colder air. The critical issue is, is the air with moisture in it allowed to escape when the humidity levels drop and temeperatures change?

In that respect open windows are better than an enclosed space so that moisture doesnt get trapped.

If unattended security was an issue then I'd rig up a solar panel to a battery (and a low voltage cut-off to prevent flattening the battery) and use that to feed an extractor fan via a humidity switch.



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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:13 pm
by John Cross | 272 Posts

I have taken a couple of the hinges off today, and going to Issac lord's tomorrow to see if they have similar items.


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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:58 pm
by John Cross | 272 Posts

Picked these up for our Troll toilet basin cupboard door. Zinc plated and cost just £1.10 for the pair
Also got 6ft of piano hinge, to go on the hinged flap/door under the front seat.
I will put photos up when I have fitted them all.

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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:15 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.585 Posts

They look fairly close on size. I suspect a slight difference on holes pitch.

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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:58 pm
by John Cross | 272 Posts

Very slight difference in the outer holes, but they will fit, and are not nasty rusty things.


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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:45 pm
by John Cross | 272 Posts

Fitted the hinges on the bathroom cupboard door. And a new piano hinge on the flap/door under the front seat.
Looks so much better now, comparing the rusty old ones.
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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:47 pm
by Stevejoyce (deleted)
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One thing to bear in mind when using stainless piano hinges is that the hinge pin is invariably mild steel and prone to rust (have these on our boat which is a bit more of a problem than the caravan). A periodic spray with wd40 keeps them in good order.


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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:07 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.585 Posts

Good quality stainless steel and solid brass piano hinge is available. I've used it at customer request a couple of times, but at £40+ for a 1.8m length this has only been a couple of times.

Colin


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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:32 pm
by John Cross | 272 Posts

Issac lord's sell chrome piano hinge at £18 for 6ft, I bought zinc plated hinge at £5 for the same length.
I will give all the hinges a periodic spray of the good stuff.


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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:02 am
by John Cross | 272 Posts

I've been at it again, I found the perfect exchange hinges on eBay for the toilet, wardrobe and little rear cupboard doors in our Troll.
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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:01 am
by Just_Chilin (deleted)
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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:52 am
by eribanaut | 1.228 Posts

Unfortunately as they are plated steel, in a few years the same problem will recur.
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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:32 am
by Just_Chilin (deleted)
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it says they are zinc plated...


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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:40 am
by Just_Chilin (deleted)
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Brass ones - these wont rust:) : Cranked Type 2 Flush Cabinet Hinge - 50 x 16 x 1mm - Polished Brass - Pack of 5 Pairs for £7.15 + VAT and £5.95 del

https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/prod...-5-pairs-890391

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RE: Rusty internal door hinges

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:44 am
by eribaMotters | 5.585 Posts

I think you will find the Ironmongery Direct are a polished brass finish and not solid brass. They are a rolled steel hinge that will have been elcetro plated with a thin layer of brass. At 1mm thick if solid brass they would bend out of shape in your fingers,
The zinc finish will probably be more resistant to breaking down than the brass. For this reason steelwork is often zinc plated, be it by an electrolytic process or by a hot dip. Occasionally it could be in a dry powder that is I think called sheradizeing. [spelling ?] This finish can still sometimes be found on nails and gives dark grey flat finish.

Colin


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