Referendum!

What I find personally objectionable to this proposal even though, as already mentioned, I shall be compensated by an equivalent road tax reduction, is that this Toll applies to all roads not simply motorways as in other European countries.

Several other European countries are raising objections to this proposal stating that it is discrimatory although this is refuted by the Transport Minister. The grounds for this claim are essentially, and taking Austria and Switzerland by way of example, their Tolls apply only to Motorways and apply to all users including their own nationals. The fact that German car users will see an equivalent road tax reduction which in essence means they pay nothing is seen as being discrimitory.

It is of course a political ploy. Angela's party didn't win an outright majority in the last election (they are against this Toll charge) but were required to form a coalition government with the CSU who want this charge and made it a condition of forming a coalition. The CSU are a Bavarian party and they have objected for years to having to pay a Toll when crossing over the border whilst others have always travelled without cost here in Germany.

Not a proposal but -actual- now! the toll to get in to Wales.

But you can always come back to Gloucester and use the back road to get into Welsh Wales free

Quote: hampshireman wrote in post #4

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Not a proposal but -actual- now! the toll to get in to Wales.

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Well done you I do most times I visit Welsh Wales look you. I live about a mile from the southern end of the Gloucester by-pass so it's easy Tredegar House at Newport CC site takes about 50 minutes whereas by motorway about 40 So I save the money