Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:22 amby Famille Thompson (deleted)
Hi, just preparing for our first trip away and have had Elsie connected to mains to get fridge 'chilled' but nothing happening at all. I have read so much on this my mind is a bit frazzled to say the least. No noise, heat or drop in temp on the fridge. Handbook not much use other than suggesting checking fuses which I have done. We have a PMS 4 system which looks OK. I haven't tried the gas yet does anyone have any tips. Changing elements etc thro' vents seems a little complicated for 'newbies'. Also how do I know the mains is actually connected?
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RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:57 amby hob (deleted)
A couple of things to mention first does everything else work? lights sockets ect?
The fridge should be what is called "3 way" eg gas 12V electric and 240V electric
The 12v should only work during towing
there are separate switches for 12V and 240V was the right one turned on and the other turned off?
There should be an electric box under the seat nearest the hookup point this will have a trip or circuit breaker ..........is this in the on position?
The 240V switch is green in mine and lights up when its on
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RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:33 amby Randa france • | 13.285 Posts
I agree with what Hob has said and to check that you have power to the van you will need to check your 3 pin sockets, plug a kettle, lead lamp etc into one. The caravan lights are 12V and run off the battery.
Changing an element through the vents it a no no as far as I'm concerned. We had our element changed last month by a caravan technician and although he made light work of it (by partially removing the fridge to get at the back), it isn't a job I would care to tackle.
I believe 3 way fridges have 3 separate heating elements so, as Hob says, try it on gas first (don't forget to switch off the fridge electric "on switch"). If it's anything like ours, patience will be needed to light it.
When you're about to leave, switch off the gas and switch on the red fridge light. Once the car is hitched up and started, that light should come on after a few seconds. This will show that your fridge is running on 12V and staying chilled while you are towing. If the gas and the towing electrics are working, it's odds on that the 240V element has gone.
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RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:41 amby hampshireman (deleted)
Our 3 way fridge switches don't light up. I usually switch on the awning light and that tells me if power is on, but that is quick and easy so if in doubt I would try the kettle etc as said above. Good luck.
They all seem to be different.
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RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:43 amby Randa france • | 13.285 Posts
RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:52 amby Agger (deleted)
My awning light is 240v only for some reason, something else that is different from van to van! I do wonder if there is a master list of items fitted to any particular van anywhere?????
With my car and no doubt yours, give them a registration or chassis number and it will tell you everything I doubt any such thing exists for Eriba's let alone caravans in general
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RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:06 amby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:15 pmby Agger (deleted)
Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #8
The awning light is 12v as a rule. It'll only come on when the van is connected to the mains to avoid it being left on inadvertently when travelling. You can't show a white light to the side.
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You are quite right and I'm a dimwit for not remembering that! So to clear any confusion ours is also 12v and not as stated elsewhere in tbis thread, and yes you can all call me a dimwit
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RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:21 pmby Pop540 (deleted)
the other way of checking if fridge is working on either electric or gas is to remove the vent panel and feel if its warmer in the area behind fridge, the pipe may be red hot so perhaps don't touch.
if on gas you should be able to hear a noise, and there is a help full window in fridge rear left if memory serves. the shows a blue flame.
now off to open a new thread on awning lights.
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RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:16 pmby Famille Thompson (deleted)
I have just sat and gone thro' everything everyone has suggested. I have an all in one PMS4 unit.
All switches/circuit breakers are up as should be.
Power (230v) is coming in as my mobile is charging.
The green switch on the fridge for mains doesn't light up but is switched on...nothing happening. No heat from vent outside.
ONE POINT THO' - on the PMS4 there are 6 10A fuses but one is missing????
So still none the wiser...
I have now used the gas to 'light' the fridge and the pilot is clearly visible on and heat coming from the vent. I plan to let this run a few hours to test it out.
HOWEVER I am still none the wiser could it be a call out? Is the missing fuse a red herring? (not literally of course!)
Help (still)
RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:53 pmby Randa france • | 13.285 Posts
Zitat
Quote Famille Thompson:- The green switch on the fridge for mains doesn't light up but is switched on
Now that is strange ( I think). When our fridge element went our green light stayed on. Therefore might we be looking at no 230V power getting to the fridge and is the missing fuse a suspect I wonder?
Do you have a photo that other members with BIP's can compare?
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:34 pmby Famille Thompson (deleted)
Well thanks for all replies and help. The gas has worked, freezer compartment 'freezing', vent hot and so its working on gas.
I have attached a photo, hopefully, showing my PMS with the missing fuse. It's dark now and so I'm not sure about the wiring but all look good and 'attached'. I did remove the 6th fuse and all the internal lights went out so that's explained that one.
One other thing to throw in there is that the switch on the top of the PMS has 12v on the right. If you depress it this side then it lights up red of pressed the other way then no light. Is this for the mains polarity?
Help again....
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RE: Electrolux 4200 in Elsie (1997 Puck)
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:17 pmby Pop540 (deleted)
this is probably a red herring
the later fridges had a plug, rather than being hard wired, so just wondering if there is a 3pin socket next to fridge (perhaps in cupboard) with a plug in, ? is this switched on?
the red light is a polarity light now whether its for reverse polarity or the charger I cant really say
I would switch the fridge off at the green non lit switch and try a 10 amp fuse the see if it blows once fridge switch on
you can always remove the fuse if worried it shouldn't be there,
if there are no destructions how are you supposed to know what the fuse powers up
which part of the world or county are you perhaps someone could suggest a qualified person in your area..
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