Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #30

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Quote: Bigloue wrote in post #27

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If I turn my iPad on its ready right away with my windows I wait 1/2 hr or more just to boot up and then spend most of my time watching the spinning blue circle!!

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It looks rather as if you've given up on your PC, but even so it shouldn't take anything like half an hour to boot up. It sounds as if it could do with a good clear out and a defragment, and I'd bet my best conker that the list of programs in startup is as long as a stair carpet.

For what it's worth, this PC - with five old-fashioned hard drives and none of those fancy Dan solid state ones - boots from stone cold to fully operational in 64 seconds, and that isn't desperately fast.

Windows computers do get a bit of a rough ride over their boot times and vulnerability to outside interference (amongst other things), but at least you don't have to throw them away when the battery expires or send them off to Apple when something goes wrong.

And they're almost infinitely upgradeable. This one here is a bit like an old pickaxe. I've replaced the haft five times and the head twice, but it's still the same machine underneath.

You pays your money and you takes your choice, but I'm not sure that a comparison between an iPad and a Windows PC is an entirely fair one.

Horses for courses and all that...

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I am a retired software engineer and I find micro soft window too full of bugs and can be hacked easily. I never put anything important on a windows pc even Apple pc have their hang ups, so I just put up with them for convenience, there are loads of trogens and other malware out there so you clean up one thing and by that time there is a new one out that the virus scanners cannot so why bother. If it's for work don't go on line with it, it will get infected sooner or later.

At the end of the day it is upto you to make your choice and use the system you find the best for you!!

Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #32

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Quote: Agger wrote in post #31

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At least mine works off a battery and I can still plug it in! But you have to agree you'd need a BIG bag to carry it in!

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If I needed to carry a little computer I'd carry a tablet thing. But it's a tablet thing with no user-replaceable parts, and once the battery won't hold a charge any more, it's landfill.

As I said before it horses for courses

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Knock on wood!, and keep a back up!

I got a new malware bug and it scwed my registry up and my boot sequences, I don't want to loose some of the stuff but if I back up and formate I my just transfere the problem

Quote: Bigloue wrote in post #37

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Knock on wood!, and keep a back up!

I got a new malware bug and it scwed my registry up and my boot sequences, I don't want to loose some of the stuff but if I back up and formate I my just transfere the problem

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Well I started this topic 3 days ago when the forum was quieter than my local high street on a Sunday afternoon in mid winter and I was bored

Seems to have added some interest to the forum as it's got 38 replies and edging towards 600 views

Years ago I used to build desktops as a hobby and built several of them starting in the days when a 1gig chip was the new thing and AMD and Intel were locked in a battle royal as to who could make the fastest chips................I always favoured AMD as their chips did more clock cycles and an AMD 1.8 gig chip was as fast as an Intel 2.2 gig chip
And multi core chips were nothing more than a distant dream.

I had a mate with a computer shop and bought the bits and built them myself ...........I even built 2 x 3.6 Ghz twin processor machines which were among the fastest computers in the country at the time

The culmination was this 17.8 Ghz supercomputer running 9 separate processors and working on cancer research
For Keith Davies while he was an honorary research fellow at Oxford University. Back in 2004
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The monitor in the foreground controlled all 8 machines (including a dual processor machine) with remote control software over an 8 port network long before remote access software was common.

So I do know a little bit about desktops

Those days are long gone now but my personal loyalty is still to the desktop computer which has way more versatility than any newer gadget...................it stores 90,000 + images at the moment and 10,000 +music and audio files without need for external storage space it has very good stereo sound with subwoofer a scanner and printer connected and internet that works from my land-line so no extra fees for mobile phone connections .................no 1 2 3 or 4 G paid for here indeed I don't even own a mobile phone tablet Ipad and other things I've never heard of

I do keep a laptop to take on my travels but that's about it

The desktop also acts as a games console so no need for that either .....................

Desktop is 2 years old now running windows 8.1 using Thunderbird for email and Waterfox for internet (X86 version of firefox) connected via land-line on Virgin. net

So no need for any other gadgets

Respect Nev!

Respect from me to BUT it's yesterdays news

Sorry, what I mean I'm a City and Guilds qualified motor mechanic BUT I would'nt mess with the new cars, they are just to tech for me!

Reading back through the topic ........a word on virus scanners pepe is quite correct about Norton it comes pre loaded on most computers and the first thing I do is uninstall it (not an easy job most of the time) but bloody expensive to renew and about as big and cumbersome as virus scanners can get ....................in my view its deliberately made that way so unsavvy people will pay up rather than try to replace it .......................next panda.................perfectly good virus scanner but they really p*ssed me off with constant emails at renewal time and again recently when i replaced it a year ago .

At the moment i'm running Kasperski 3 use version ..............for 30 quid you can run it on up to 3 computers at a time so its also on my laptop.

Now I know windows has a virus scanner and firewall built in and in windows 8 its capable and things like AVG are free but they have their limitations .......................If you do things like bank on line and buy on line using a credit card ...................or worse still a debit card you get a better quality program with the paid for versions ...................and if it stops a fraud .....................it's worth the money to buy one.

Wow !! Nev.........Reads like a Sci-Fi movie, if I knew what it was, I'd have one (and a spare)
Meanwhile, I just ride along on Gwens shirt tails (or dressing gown ties)....I was doing the heavy lifting jobs, while her, indoors was learning all this stuff......and now its time to get a grip, I'm way behind. Anything goes wrong.
, its over to her. I can make a half decent show on the practical side, but I'm afraid the theoretical bit leave me a bit puzzled.
Never mind ! I suppose we all have our limitations. My granddaughters partner talks about his X box, and I wonder if its full of his buried treasure he's put in his garden lol.......no, seriously, I do try to keep up, but unless its something your doing daily, it gets away from you........and a laptop is about my limit I,ve got an iphone 4 hand me down.....its brilliant, but it does a lot more than I can use.
I only need a mobile for emergencies ............but I do feel vulnerable, if I leave it behind.....What happened to all those little red phone boxes on every other street corner............I think I'm a Dinosaur.......Could be worse, I suppose.......I do still remember how things used to work. .....Sad, ain't it ?

Quote: hob wrote in post #40

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The culmination was this 17.8 Ghz supercomputer running 9 separate processors and working on cancer research
For Keith Davies while he was an honorary research fellow at Oxford University. Back in 2004

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