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Cleaners, wax or polishers

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:22 pm
by Shimano38 (deleted)
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Dear Al
We are new owners to our Betty Pucker and need some advice on the cleaning and aftercare.Ive seen so many waxes, polishes, shiners etc.
Whats the best and safest product to get the dirt off the sides and top, what do you use after cleaning ?
Its all new as been trailer tenters and used to fabsil !
Thanks


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RE: Cleaners, wax or polishers

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:10 am
by Agger (deleted)
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Hi Annabel, I am unable to reply to your post in thread, not your fault sometimes these things happen, anyway here are my thoughts

I am not trying to teach "Granny new tricks" so forgive me if I go back to basics.

To clean your Eriba you need a plentiful supply of water, so a hosepipe with a control gun. Microfibre cloths (avoid sponges) soft brush, car cleaning detergent (not fairy liquid) a polish of your choice and a wax of your choice.

So the way I used to do our Eriba was to start at the roof (Lowered initially and then raised to enable cleaning of the canvas). Soak the roof and keep the hosepipe handy (keeping a wet surface stops scratching from contaminants) if your Eriba is very dirty, apply the car cleaning detergent direct to your microfibre cloth / pad, and work away. Remember to keep the surface wet! Let the car cleaning detergent sit on the surface for a while after you have worked it in, but don't let it dry! Complete the lowered roof in the same manner, remember to clean the gap between the rubber strip (bump stop) as this often holds algae! And also the rain gutters, I used cotton wool balls for this.

Lift the roof, this will allow you to clean under the roof and wet the canvas, use a clean damp cloth for the canvas and just lightly wipe it (do not use detergent!).

As for the sides, back and front it's simply a matter of more of the same.

When you are happy with the cleanliness of your Eriba, do it again! Seriously, thhe first "good" wash improves it so muchh you'll be happy with it BUT wash it again and you'll be even more iimpressed.

BE CAREFUL THE ERIBBA PAINT IS VERY THIN!!!!!

If your windows are scratched then you can re-polish them using Brasso, I did a thread on this and it REALLY is worth doing, took me about 20 minutes total.

When you have washed your Eriba if it looks dull you might want to polish it annd then wax (in that order)

I use a variety of detergents, polishes, waxes and can recommend some to you later.

I found the best most cost effective Microfibre cloths are the Asda orange £3 these are big and I can dry our car after a wash with 2 of these and it's dry.

I hope this helps, please comeback if you want more information, either in thread or by pm I don't mind. You might even want to put this pm in thread as it may help others.

Best regards,

Agger aka Gray


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RE: Cleaners, wax or polishers

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:14 am
by jasond4289 (deleted)
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Is your puck smooth or dimpled?

I trust Autoglym products having used them for years on cars and bikes. Use Bodywork shampoo followed by Super Resin Polish to clean and shine and Extra Gloss Protection as a wax finish. These are fine on smooth finish, but on dimpled I have read on here that the polish gets stuck in the dimples when you buff and is a bugger to remove, although I have no experience with this.

Halfords have 3 for 2 at the moment and stock the full Autoglym range plus other top brands such as Mer and Meguiars.


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RE: Cleaners, wax or polishers

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:02 pm
by Agger (deleted)
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I've posted this in here to ensurre you get it, I've replied twice by pm but it does'nt seem to want to acknowledge it!!!!


No problem, I have no personal knowledge of Fenwicks but I guess your thinking off Bobby Dazzler? The problem with these AIO (All In One's) is that they can seal grime in! They do a great job but I prefer a dedicated car shampoo, dont be frightened to use a small amount of bleach in the process after all your washing it to polish it to wax it😂

Auto Glym shampoo is very good I use it! It can and should be used diluted but don't be frightened of using it neat on a wash mitt to cleann stubborn marks.

Hope that helps if you need more please ask away,

Best regards Agger aka Gray



PS sent again as this new system seems to be playing up!!!!😈😈😈


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RE: Cleaners, wax or polishers

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:16 pm
by Wordspace (deleted)
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Quote: Agger wrote in post #4
I have no personal knowledge of Fenwicks but I guess your thinking off Bobby Dazzler? The problem with these AIO (All In One's) is that they can seal grime in! They do a great job but I prefer a dedicated car shampoo, dont be frightened to use a small amount of bleach in the process after all your washing it to polish it to wax it😂
The AIOs will only seal in the grime that's been left there by a non-Agger-grade clean. However, if you begin with Fenwicks Caravan Cleaner, do a thorough job, leather off the surplus and rinse with their Bobby Dazzler, you should be ok. But I'm sure Agger would agree when I say don't let the Bobby Dazzler be a substitute for a proper polish and wax.

I use Fenwick's because it's in the shed there, waiting to be used, and I've been very satisfied with it so far. Having run out of Autoglym, I use it on the car too. But car or caravan, I use these products for in-between washes, and I do a proper polish/wax every few months.


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RE: Cleaners, wax or polishers

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:40 pm
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: Wordspace wrote in post #5
However, if you begin with Fenwicks Caravan Cleaner...
I've never used Fenwicks (I use Autoglym shampoo, but I'm sure the net result is the same), but I wouldn't actually begin with Autoglym or Fenwicks or a sponge or mitt or anything like that.

I'd begin with just a hosepipe and my hand. You can feel dirt and grit with your bare fingers in a way you never could if they're stuck in a mitt or wrapped in a cloth, and it won't get picked up by or embedded in your skin.

I've rinsed cars before washing them this way for years, and I do the van like this too. It's extra faff, and you do get wetter, and occasionally you do end up with cowshit or scraps of roadkill on your hands, but your paintwork will thank you for it. The only time I don't do it is when it's so bleedin' taters outside that washing a car is a recipe for frostbite, but with a bit of luck your fair weather dedication will see you through until it warms up a bit.

Most scratches or swirls are caused by something stuck in a cloth or a sponge, and anything you can do to lessen that is good, including always - like always - chucking away any cloth, sponge or mitt which falls on the ground, wet or not.

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RE: Cleaners, wax or polishers

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:57 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #6
I'd begin with just a hosepipe and my hand. You can feel dirt and grit with your bare fingers in a way you never could if they're stuck in a mitt or wrapped in a cloth, and it won't get picked up by or embedded in your skin.
That's all right for you to say, Mr. lah-di-da-never-done-a-stroke-of-honest-work-in-your-life-so-called-artist, with your soft, lily-white, unmarked, dainty little hands. You workshy fop.

It's different for good-old-salt-of-the-earth-hard-grafting-artisan types like the noble Agger with his labour-hardened hands and fingers the size of Lincolnshire sausages with skin the texture of coarse emery. If he so much as touched the paint on an Eriba it would be like rubbing it vigorously with valve grinding paste. A mitt is therefore an essential item in his arsenal of cleaning materials so don't you get all hoity-toity.

That's your problem, matey. No empathy with the working man.


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RE: Cleaners, wax or polishers

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:52 am
by Wordspace (deleted)
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Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #6
Quote: Wordspace wrote in post #5
However, if you begin with Fenwicks Caravan Cleaner...
I'd begin with just a hosepipe and my hand. You can feel dirt and grit with your bare fingers in a way you never could if they're stuck in a mitt or wrapped in a cloth, and it won't get picked up by or embedded in your skin.

I've rinsed cars before washing them this way for years, and I do the van like this too. It's extra faff, and you do get wetter, and occasionally you do end up with cowshit or scraps of roadkill on your hands, but your paintwork will thank you for it.
Yes, you're right, and I should have put that in at the start. But I'd add a caveat that a water jet can be as damaging as a Brillo pad if the pressure is too great. Any existing dirt acts as an abrasive, and the soft aluminium panels of an Eriba can be dented by the sheer force of the water. (Which, as an aside, makes me think: maybe that's what happened to the brand new Troll that was discussed a couple of days ago?) So, to get back to the topic, it's best to set your hosepipe to give just a fine mist, which will soak and loosen the surface muck before you get started with your cleaner of choice. At least, that's my opinion 😀


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