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Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:07 pm
by ChristineK (deleted)
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Hi all. I am thinking of having the underside of my 2010 Puck L treated with Waxoyl, both the steel chassis (inside and outside box) and the caravan floor. Any comments, or advice welcome. There seems to be a fairly well thought of company down in Dorset (Rust busters) who specialise doing motorhomes and caravans. Just wondering if anyone has any knowledge to pass on that I should know please. Many thanks.


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:29 pm
by Poptop320 | 2.631 Posts

I am sure it's worth doing, I was going to do my Puck a few years ago but I changed it out for a Familia with a galvanised chassis, however I did waxoyl my old MG and I remember the constant pong of paraffin and oily wax marks on my drive where it had dripped out on a hot summers day..


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:38 pm
by ChristineK (deleted)
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....... was it a good thing or a bad thing then?!!....


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:02 pm
by Frantone (deleted)
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I don't know much about this about I would have thought it was only worth doing to a new vehicle or one that had been treated already. Isn't there a danger of sealing corrosion in?


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:15 pm
by ChristineK (deleted)
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Its been suggested to me that any rust will be sealed by the treatment, and so 'halted'. I only know what has been told to me by people/companies who do it ..... would be nice to hear from anyone with personal experience. I am a bit ignorant and don't want to do it and then regret it .... if you know what I mean. Unfortunately I don't have a galvanized chassis. They also suggest it is good at preserving the caravan floor.


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:06 pm
by Poptop320 | 2.631 Posts

Quote: ChristineK wrote in post #5
Its been suggested to me that any rust will be sealed by the treatment, and so 'halted'. I only know what has been told to me by people/companies who do it ..... would be nice to hear from anyone with personal experience. I am a bit ignorant and don't want to do it and then regret it .... if you know what I mean. Unfortunately I don't have a galvanized chassis. They also suggest it is good at preserving the caravan floor.


It was certainly worth doing on my MG car, but it will prudent to hear somebodies experience using it on an Eriba regarding the smell and the leakage in hot weather, otherwise it will be like sleeping in a paraffin lamp. Don't forget that there are parts of the sub-frame that the waxoly cannot coat such as the surface that is in contact with the floor or close to the aluminium skin and it is theses hidden areas that are venerable and are usually the areas that rust, i.e.a leaking window will drop water down the cavity which slowly rots the floor and then the top of the small box section will rust.
Waxoyl does suggest that it halts existing rust and looking at my 26 year old waxoyl tin which is coated in the stuff certainly keeps the rust at bay. I am not too sure about statement using it to treat the floor as this is wood and this requires a different kind of protection.

It would appear to me if you are having it professionally done then unless they can take the chassis off which I am sure they wont then they cannot possibly coat all the external surfaces.
You can buy a waxoyl kit which is a lot cheaper, which is a pump, spray head and long tube plus bungs as you will have to drill the chassis to insert the pipe. Its best to do this on a warm day when the wax is at its most fluid.

http://www.mgocspares.co.uk/acatalog/MGO...Waxoyl_855.html


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:29 pm
by ChristineK (deleted)
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Interesting ...... thank you. Sounds like I would need a clothes peg on my nose if I took the van on warmer travels!!


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:34 pm
by sternal (deleted)
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what do you treat the underneath of the wooden floor with then ?


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:08 pm
by Poptop320 | 2.631 Posts

Hymer do use a special preservative spray. Have a word with Jandi caravans. They will advise you what it is and probably supply it for you.....

http://www.eribacaravans.co.uk/


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:17 pm
by Tinkerbelle | 28 Posts

I Waxoil all the lower frame that I think needs it every year. Who knows if it is doing any good? Better than doing nothing? No smell inside the 'van. (In any event, I like it's smell.)

(Before you start, warm the tin in a basin of boiling water. Shake the tin to hear/feel that the contents are thin and runny.)

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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:32 am
by ChristineK (deleted)
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So.... correct me if I am wrong .... I am thinking from what is being said, that I could have what is seen of the chassis frame underneath (inside the box and on the outside surface... including over the top of any powder coating that is good and intact?) treated with waxoyl, but maybe not the wood floor ....... stick to the Hymer product for this? ( is waxoyl therefore harmful to the floor?)
. The chap down in Dorset /Rustbusters seemed to suggest the floor would be ok to treat with Waxoyl too?.....and that it would be a good thing.....however, I don't want to do anything silly ; I know I can get hold of the Hymer stuff for the floor if this is considered best? (through Lowdham Leisure world ). Just trying to look after it in the best way possible, bearing in mind there has been some rusting ....


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:14 am
by Poptop320 | 2.631 Posts

Quote: ChristineK wrote in post #11
So.... correct me if I am wrong .... I am thinking from what is being said, that I could have what is seen of the chassis frame underneath (inside the box and on the outside surface... including over the top of any powder coating that is good and intact?) treated with waxoyl, but maybe not the wood floor ....... stick to the Hymer product for this? ( is waxoyl therefore harmful to the floor?)
. The chap down in Dorset /Rustbusters seemed to suggest the floor would be ok to treat with Waxoyl too?.....and that it would be a good thing.....however, I don't want to do anything silly ; I know I can get hold of the Hymer stuff for the floor if this is considered best? (through Lowdham Leisure world ). Just trying to look after it in the best way possible, bearing in mind there has been some rusting ....



It sounds like the rust buster dealer is more geared up for cars than caravans, they usually hot jet blast the underside, liberally spray the car chassis with waxoyl and also inject any cavities . So I can see why he suggests spraying all the floor as it will be easier. Stick to the Hymer floor spray, I don't know anybody else that uses waxoyl to coat their Eriba external wood floor.
It will stink like a paraffin lamp if you go down that route, especially when your sat in your awning on a hot day...
I am not saying it's not worth doing, my MG has certainly benefited from using the product, however having it professionally done will be expensive and they still will not be able to coat all the problem surfaces. I don't want to put you off I just want to give you as much information as possible.to make a considered judgment.


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:50 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

I've got a part-used tin of Waxoyl black brush-on underseal in the garage that I've had for years, so long in fact that I can't remember which vehicle I used it on. I've just done a search to see if it is still available and Halfords sell it. Waxoyl underseal

I seem to remember it being advertised as 'self-curing', i.e. that if the barrier were broken by, say, a flying stone, it would self-repair to provide continuous protection. It was messy to apply but did a great job.

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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:24 am
by ChristineK (deleted)
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Thanks everyone for your posts, I really appreciate it. Just a shame these chassis weren't galvanized.


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RE: Waxoyl treatment

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:07 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

I'm a long standing 'Waxoyl" fan, having used it liberaly on many 'rust prone' cars I've owned, including my 30 year old Citroen 2CV (many of which required new chassis following failure at their first 3 year MOT )

Coating the outside surfaces is only part of the treatment, it is (IMHO) essential to high pressure inject into to hollow,or, box sections, to protect against the unseen condensation induced internal rust !

I would not Waxoyl directly over rust if it can be avoided (though it may help) best to clean up and paint with chassis paint and then Waxoyl.

With my Eriba I've painted only the box sections and steel areas - I believe it is NOT a good idea to coat the floor areas with Waxoyl. Again try to inject inside the box sections. Waxoyl won't spray if thick and cold - it's very difficult to keep warm enough to spray succcessfuly, best to thin with turps type thinners for box sections and then temporally block up the filler holes until the liquid evaporates and thickens ! Then remove the 'plugs' to allow the sections to breathe. In a car I run it around for a while to slop the 'liguid' around to cover as much inside as possible (may not be practical in an Eriba).

Be prepared for the strong smell of Waxoyl but it will go !

Hope this helps :)


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