Autoglyming the roof.
Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:58 pmby Randa france • | 13.283 Posts
I know that there are volumes of stuff regarding cleaning and polishing your Eriba fibreglass roof on here but I would like to ask others how often they Autoglym (cut back) their roof?
The reason I ask is that today was probably the first time since we arrived home from our recent trip that it was possible to wash the Eriba (Welsh weather and all that). While washing off the roof I noticed that I was not able to wash off some ground in dirt no matter how hard I rubbed it. It looks to be ingrained and is showing as a very faint, patchy grey discolouration of the roof rather like a camouflage pattern.
I haven't autoglymed it this year but have used wax polish with carnauba and the roof was gleaming before we left.
For others new to this subject, in a nutshell there follows the best advice on how to keep your roof tiptop.
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............ I would give it a really good wash with some half-decent car shampoo followed by a going over with Autoglym Super Resin Polish. As Mr Cauldron points out - quite correctly of course - it is a polish, but it really isn't very abrasive at all.
Things like T-Cut are in a different league altogether, and best left for blending in partial DIY spray jobs or getting a bright red car which has faded to a tasteful matt pink back to bright red again.
Provided that the gel coat is in reasonably good nick and hasn't gone too chalky (or crazed), SRP will give a perfectly acceptable base for a coat or two of wax. Something with carnauba in it is probably best. Likely as not you won't get away with spending less than ten or fifteen notes on something worthwhile.
So, do others Autoglym annually or is that excessive?
Randa
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RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:44 pmby hob (deleted)
I did mine with T cut a couple of years ago (Don't know when it was done before that) it was quite grubby without a winter cover (must get it one this year)
Normally I just wash it now and again with some car washing stuff in the water.
So is Autoglym like t cut? i thought it was just a polish?
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RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:34 pmby Agger (deleted)
Roger, for me it needs a cut back to show it true potential, a dirty roof can ruin a Great Van. Not difficult o do but time consuming and you need good appropriate support! Easier with a machine.
Likes to wax and have a smooth finish! 😎
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RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:15 pmby Ribski • | 1.468 Posts
Thought Autoglyn is a NON CUT polish too ! And as such could be used as much as you like ! If you have staines on the roof I'd advise careful use of a 'cutting
polish/or T Cut - then re Autoglyn then perhaps a gloss protector polish like Autoglyn 'Extra Protection Polish' I've always found Autoglyn products to be well worth the premium you pay !
RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:23 pmby Randa france • | 13.283 Posts
I thought I was using Autoglym as a mild cutting paste? When I first used it, it took the chalkiness off the roof and after two coats of polish, it came up a treat.
I polished it again early this year so the light "staining" has occurred during this year's trip.
So you think the Autoglym won't cut back the polish and remove the stains?
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:02 amby campnsnooze (deleted)
We used the Starbrite Fiberglass Color Restorer first to clean the roof and 2 sides (we have an Eriba Future 430T, which also has 2 walls made of fibreglass), this works like a mild T-Cut. It will take a bit of elbow grease and only do small parts at a time.
We then used the Starbrite Premium Marine Polish with PTEF. This is a very thick cream and works better if kept in the warm before use. This is easy to put on and rub off. It also works very well with an electric polisher. Use sparingly and a 397gr tub should last 12-18monthsas its not cheap. Keith polishes the van 2-3 times a year and has not 'bloomed' yet.
Chris
RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:03 amby Deeps (deleted)
Best of luck with whatever you finally choose to do, Roger. I'm in the same class as the 'bear' in that I allow the lady to grow old gracefully by giving her the odd wash and brush up - frequency dependent upon how dirty she got during the trip - with a roof polish every 3 years or so.
I spent the best part of two days last year applying Autoglym and then waxing only to note following our recent long trip to the Atlantic coast that my time would probably have been better spent decorating the front room and then watching the paint dry.
Two things that I have now discovered is that (a) the long protracted winter with the pop-up down tends to 'yellow' that section of roof that is not exposed to light whilst, (b) the exposed area of roof not covered by the pop-up roof fully retains it's bright white appearance with a clear border between the two areas. Along with that, and perhaps as a result of a different forming process/paint application, the pop-up itself tends to become ingrained with dirt far more easily which is far more difficult to remove despite the application of polish/wax. More worrying was the amount of tree sap that was dotted around the various roof sections which, if left to bake hard in the sun, would have been almost next to impossible to remove and which I have learned from bitter experience, can permanently damage any paint finish. Luckily the sap was still a bit on the soft side when I discovered it and a good rub using a bit of that computer screen cleaning stuff removed most of it.
We spend most of our time camping in various areas of France of which you also have accumulated a fair bit of experience, Roger. I'm sure you cannot have failed to notice that the French just get on with their camping enjoying the outdoor life and the opportunities/activities it offers. They are far less fussy when it comes to either car maintenance/polishing which also extends to their caravans and so long as things are in running order they tend to leave things alone. Perhaps it's a climate thing but the Brits appear to spend more time washing and polishing things than actually getting on and using them. This way of thinking also extends to the campsites themselves of course with the CC run sites being almost managed along military lines with all this nose in/nose out business whereas in France it's a case of 'here's your pitch, get on with it'.
In short then, accept that the lady is going to grow old so allow her to do so gracefully by applying the minimum of effort to keep her shipshape as you would do with the house and forget all about this polishing and waxing every five minutes which will only slowly remove paint over time no matter what product you use.
RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:04 amby Agger (deleted)
Cutting agent = removal of "dead" paint, oxidisation, tar spots, tree sap, staining etc
Polish = very mild cutting agent properties
Wax = protective coating after polish.
Sealant = longer lasting? Than wax, high tech newer solution.
In a nut shell, if your roof is "dull" then a cut back using T Cut or similar is needed, followed by a polish, followed by a wax or sealant! There aren't many older Eriba with a shiny roof and that's why! Because it's hard work and takes time! There is no quick fix magic solution, once done you'll get a season (without a cover) of ownership of a smart Eriba. I used to get laughed at for doing mine regularly but I was proud of the Eriba, I have posted quite a few hints tips photo's of the process. Hth 😎
Likes to wax and have a smooth finish! 😎
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RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:32 amby Randa france • | 13.283 Posts
So going back to my original post, although Autoglym is a polish, is it also mildly abrasive? The first time I used it, it did the trick.
If it is then I'm thinking that it will do no harm to use it every year before applying a couple of coats of polish, in our case Simoniz Original Wax (with carnauba).
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:34 amby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
Quote: Agger wrote in post #8Agreed.
Cutting agent = removal of "dead" paint, oxidisation, tar spots, tree sap, staining etc
Polish = very mild cutting agent properties
Wax = protective coating after polish.
Sealant = longer lasting? Than wax, high tech newer solution.
In a nut shell, if your roof is "dull" then a cut back using T Cut or similar is needed, followed by a polish, followed by a wax or sealant!
Well, except for two things.
Thing one, don't use T-cut to remove tar spots - it's a sledgehammer to crack a nut. T-cut will remove paint (or clearcoat) around the spot, and that's not necessarily a good thing. A lttle bit of White Spirit on a rag will get rid of tar spots without damaging the paintwork. It'll need re-waxing, but that's all.
Thing two. It may be just me, but I'm deeply suspicious of so-called sealants, especially those like Lifeshine which car dealers in particular will try and flog you if you're in the fortunate position of being able to afford a new car.
They really don't have your best interests at heart. Dealerships make a pretty big commission on stuff like this, and there's no guarantee that whatever treatment is applied is applied properly, i.e. in the dust-free environment of a body shop using specialised materials. An old teatowel and a bit of scrim from the bottom of an ancient carrier bag full of rags just won't cut it.
Seal paintwork outside and you seal in all the stuff that falls or gets blown on to the car after it's been washed, or even worse, seal in all the swirls and marks which haven't been removed as they should have been.
I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole myself.
I honestly don't think there's a shortcut to keeping a vehicle in tip-top condition. You just have to accept that it's going to require a lot of elbow grease.
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RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:38 amby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
Quote: Randa france wrote in post #9Yes, it is. Very mildly abrasive.
So going back to my original post, although Autoglym is a polish, is it also mildly abrasive?
It also contains fillers to help disguise fine scratches.
I think what you're doing is bang on. I'd only use T-cut if Autoglym SRP (Super Resin Polish) doesn't have the desired effect.
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yy-R56kh
RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:39 amby Agger (deleted)
I agree I would'nt use T cut to remove tar spots but if the rest of the roof needs a T Cut then it's hard to go around them!😎
I would'nt use a sealant either, I only mentioned it as if I did'nt someone else would of!😎
Totally agree with Elbow Grease! and it beats sitting on your rectal region watching Jeremy's Piles or Floosy Women
Apparently if you sing or hum while applying the wax it's known as "Waxing Lyrical"
Likes to wax and have a smooth finish! 😎
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RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:41 amby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:53 amby Randa france • | 13.283 Posts
Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #11Quote: Randa france wrote in post #9Yes, it is. Very mildly abrasive.
So going back to my original post, although Autoglym is a polish, is it also mildly abrasive?
It also contains fillers to help disguise fine scratches.
I think what you're doing is bang on. I'd only use T-cut if Autoglym SRP (Super Resin Polish) doesn't have the desired effect.
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Thank you I'll get on with it after our next trip out.
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
RE: Autoglyming the roof.
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:56 amby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
Quote: Agger wrote in post #8To be fair, Gray, it did raise a few eyebrows when you revealed that a large proportion of your regular holidays at Baltic Wharf was spent washing and waxing your car and caravan. Didn't we conclude that you were suffering from OCEPD (Obsessive Compulsive Eriba Polishing Disorder)?
I used to get laughed at for doing mine regularly
Have to admit though that it was shinier than a very shiny thing. I wonder if Morphy is keeping up the tradition?
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