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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:53 pm
by Addick100 (deleted)
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I always leave both switches set on. When on campsite hook up, the green light is on. When hooked up to the car, with engine running, the red light is on. Linz checks as part of the road light etc. check prior to setting off.
The OPs prob is that the red light doesn't come on when hooked up to the car, with the engine running.
His car electrics are fine. I know because I checked them!

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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:01 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

It would be useful to hook the caravan up to a car with electrics that are known to work OK (if possible) and see if that rectifies the problem.


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:35 am
by hob (deleted)
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Surprised no one has suggested that the 12v element may need replacing? my 230v one failed last year and needed to be replaced by my service engineer.


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:54 am
by eribanaut | 1.228 Posts

On the new fridges there are no lights, just a round dial to set to 12v / 230v / gas, but there is an interior light, if that lights does it mean its working?.
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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:31 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: hob wrote in post #18
Surprised no one has suggested that the 12v element may need replacing? my 230v one failed last year and needed to be replaced by my service engineer.
But the OP said that the red light isn't coming on so there is no 12v power at the fridge when connected to the car with the engine running.

I've just Googled 'Dometic 12v element' and found this thread on the Caravan Talk Forum which goes into detail about this exact problem. Caravan Talk thread fridge 12v


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:57 am
by hob (deleted)
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Looks way beyond my IQ


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:18 pm
by Frantone (deleted)
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Dave, I don't think the internal light guarantees that the fridge is working. It operates whether the fridge is on 12v or 240v which suggests that it has its own separate supply.


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:06 pm
by philipdick (deleted)
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Thanks to Addick 100,(Ian), for checking my electrics and for other sage advice.
Before leaving our campsite I checked the fridge with the engine running and the red light was on (?!?). A self healing Troll perhaps. Hopefully it will now continue to function properly. Thanks for all the suggestions.


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:11 pm
by Eribanut | 2.026 Posts

Julie, As stated earlier the red switch is for when you are towing provided you have the 13 pin arrangement or the 6 & 7 plugs arrangement. To use it you should switch the green to off (down) and switch red to on (up) . To test start the car and rev it slightly and the red switch should illuminate. It could be that if it does not illuminate, the switch itself is faulty.


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:54 pm
by kevandnia (deleted)
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As it's such a glorious day I decided to spend it next to the car exhaust in an attempt to figure out if my fridge works on 12v or not.

Found an article on checking tow bar electrics, got the multimeter out and can at least confirm that the car's ok. Get a +ve voltage on pin 10 when engine is idling.

Connected to Troll, switched 12v switch on, engine idling, no light. Got Nia to sit in the car and hold at 2000rpm, waited 5 minutes, still no red light. Was about to give up but opened the freezer compartment and element felt cold and there was condensation forming. So it looks as if I may just have a blown bulb in the switch.

However, decided to repeat experiment with thermometer just to be sure. Left fridge and freezer door open to allow them to get to room temp, placed thermometer in freezer compartment and repeated what I'd done earlier. But nothing happened. Didn't appear to cool at all. It had got a fair bit warmer by this time and if I'd have continued for longer than 5 minutes it may well have worked.

I at least know the car electrics work now but I'm still not 100% sure if the fridge works or not. What I intend to do next is not precool the fridge when we next go away and see if it has cooled when we get to the destination.


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:05 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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Quote: eribanaut wrote in post #19
On the new fridges there are no lights, just a round dial to set to 12v / 230v / gas, but there is an interior light, if that lights does it mean its working?.


To the best of my knowledge (info from workshop technician) fridge runs from Pins 10 and 11 although the light is supplied via Pin 9 (Permanent live). Might sound daft until you remember that if the fridge was to operate also via Pin 9 you could easily run the cars battery flat unless the 13-Pin socket was disconnected every time you stopped.


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:46 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

There is a switch on the BIP unit that allows 12V appliances (including the fridge, I think) to run when the caravan is connected to the car but pitched on site without EHU, i.e. without the engine running.

On my BIP (in its original condition) this was the second switch from the left (next to the fridge relay) and normally it should be in the down (off) position.

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So far as I can recall, this arrangement was so that continental caravanners (who tend to use sites with EHU and therefore don't have leisure batteries fitted) can use their vans off grid in emergencies. I've read a cautionary note somewhere about the risk of running the vehicle battery too low to start the car the next day.


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:00 pm
by kevandnia (deleted)
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Hmm! That switch is set to on on my bip. I'd no idea what it controlled so I left it as it was. I wonder if I set it to off whether the 12v to fridge would work. If it does what you say it does it implies that it switches the supply from pin 10 as there should be nothing on that when engine switched off.
Could also explain why I felt that fridge had worked for a bit as engine was turned off for a while whilst I tried to figure out what to do.
I'll try it when I get home from work tomorrow night.


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:04 pm
by hob (deleted)
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I have often wondered if mine works on 12v as rather like testing the brake lights I find I cant be in the car and somewhere else watching at the same time


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RE: dometic fridge 12v failure

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:12 pm
by Taffy (deleted)
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I always start up the car do light checks, and pop my head in the door to see if the 12v light is on the fridge, set temp and then lock up the door before heading off.


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