Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:28 amby rambling robin (deleted)
I'm just hoping that the friction pads will bed in soon - got home with new van yesterday and the stabiliser handle just would not release.
Eventually managed to get it to lift with a length of scaffold pole and some suitable protection Van parked on almost flat with tension off the tow hitch - you can see the sides pinch in correctly when lowering the handle, so I don't think there's anything wrong, just hugely stiff - hitch is an Alko ball.
Probably just needs some oil
Talk about tail wagging dog - now I know what lack of proper nose-weight feels like - AL said it would be fine as it was - yeah right!
Neurotic Kia Sportage trundling MegaPuck 410
RE: Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:57 amby JohnE (deleted)
Quote: rambling robin wrote in post #1If Al-Ko built them to be that difficult to release they'd have made the handle the same length as your scaffold pole.
I'm just hoping that the friction pads will bed in soon - got home with new van yesterday and the stabiliser handle just would not release... Eventually managed to get it to lift with a length of scaffold pole.
The simple remedy is to set the pads correctly by adjusting the number of shims on each side pad (the AKS3004 also has front and rear pads but these are fixed).
RE: Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:09 amby Deeps (deleted)
Wouldn't fitting shims make operating the handle even more difficult? I wonder why some new 3004 stabilisers have shims from new whilst others don't. Are manufacturing tolerances of the pads so bad that shims are sometimes required?
RE: Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:19 amby JohnE (deleted)
Quote: Deeps wrote in post #3Yes. And removing shims will make operating the handle easier - read my reply again, Herr Deeps.
Wouldn't fitting shims make operating the handle even more difficult?
A set of replacement side pads includes 6 shims, but it's not intended that they're all fitted.
Quote: Deeps wrote in post #3The shims are required to take into account wear of the pads, the hitch, and the towball.
I wonder why some new 3004 stabilisers have shims from new whilst others don't. Are manufacturing tolerances of the pads so bad that shims are sometimes required?
RE: Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:37 amby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
Quote: JohnE wrote in post #4Only if you buy a set of pads which includes the shims. Not all of them do.
A set of replacement side pads includes 6 shims, but it's not intended that they're all fitted.
I bought a pukka AL-KO set for our 3004 - all vacuum-packed and everything - that didn't include the shims. I didn't want them anyway so it didn't matter, but of the many sets available on eBay and elsewhere, an awful lot don't have them in.
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RE: Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:58 amby rambling robin (deleted)
OK - that makes sense - so the idea is to reduce the thickness of the side pad shim bundle until the handle is easier to operate.
I guess we're talking about a slightly subjective value of easy - is there any one indicator that would tell me if I've remove too many? Would the handle just be sloppy or do the front and back pads hide that?
Sorry but this is total novice-land - shimming camshafts no problem but this gert lump of metal behind is a different game!
Neurotic Kia Sportage trundling MegaPuck 410
RE: Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:02 amby Deeps (deleted)
Logically I would think that as long as the markings on the handle fall within the engraved settings on the front of the hitch then you are good to go.
RE: Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:04 amby bogbean (deleted)
When I first bought my Eriba last winter I had a heck of a job to pull the stabiliser handle up when I got home. Not good news as I have a bad shoulder. However, it does seem easier now the more I use it....the stabiliser, I mean. I did speak to an Alko agent in the end and he said it was obviously doing what it is meant to do.
RE: Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:39 amby rambling robin (deleted)
Well, I drifted out the pads and no shims.
My ball measures a tad under 50mm (Imperial tad that is - can't stand all this new fangled metric stuff)
With the 48mm red keeper ball there's a nice 'over centre' action which is what I remember these hitches feeling like. I hope it's just a case of me being a weakling and that it will all bed down after a good rubbing over some twisty roads.
In the meantime my 2' scaffold pole has now got some nice padding at the gas locker end and some carpet tile inserts to prevent damage to the stabiliser handle.
Neurotic Kia Sportage trundling MegaPuck 410
RE: Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:24 amby Poptop320 • | 2.631 Posts
Just a belts and braces response, did you remember to remove all the paint from your tow ball?
My previous van had an Alko 1300 which when new was a devil to unhitch. I had to jump up and down on the tow ball to get it off, after a few trips it was fine. My new Familia now has the Alko 3004, it has resistance applying and removing but can be done by hand and without any other means.
When I go on holiday I like to pop my top!
RE: Alko 3004 stabiliser handle!
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:32 amby rambling robin (deleted)
So, rocked up at site on Tueday - applied scaffold pole to handle and it broke (handle that is)
Drove all the way back home, contacted AL and Wednesday morning took van down to them.
Bit of fiddling around and in the end decided that fitting a 1300 was the best solution - much easier to operate, no strain, no pain.
Done while we waited - first class service!
Couldn't feel the slightest difference towing on the way home, so off again.
Neurotic Kia Sportage trundling MegaPuck 410
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