New tyre balancing
I have just had new tyres on my Troll and they have not been balanced. I queried this with the fitters and they said they do not normally balance trailer or caravan tyres and they are perfectly safe. I am not sure myself, what do members of the forum think.
RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Wed May 03, 2017 8:23 pmby eribaMotters • | 5.605 Posts
Quote: eribaMotters wrote in post #2
You will get lots of members reeling in shock at this, saying wheels must be balanced.
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RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Thu May 04, 2017 8:06 amby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
Check your receipt. Chances are you were charged £6 or thereabouts for balancing each wheel. I was and I demanded that they be done.
Of course caravan wheels should be balanced. Imagine the vibration inside the van at certain speeds. You might not be aware of it while driving but Eriba suspension is basic and I'd rather not have my caravan and contents shaken about if it can be avoided.
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RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Thu May 04, 2017 10:22 amby Ribski • | 1.468 Posts
Mine weren't balanced when supplied new from Eriba France- so have never bothered to have any new tyres balanced either . Never experienced any problems. I am of the opinion that vibration is most likely on axles that have steering wheels so not likely to be problem with rigid trailer axles Maybe right maybe wrong,but as I said don't seem to have had any problems .Having said that it can do no harm to have them balanced and be 100% sure! ! !
RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Thu May 04, 2017 11:24 amby Randa france • | 13.287 Posts
Wheel balancing has always been part of the service at the Tyre Specialists we use and is an integral part of the overall cost.
Therefore, all our past trailers and caravans have always had the wheels balanced going back over decades. As Ribski says, it doesn't harm to have them done and in our case it doesn't cost either so I can't understand the reason for not doing it.
The actual process of balancing is done on a fixed axle.
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RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Thu May 04, 2017 11:53 amby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
Quote: Ribski wrote in post #6Nope.
I am of the opinion that vibration is most likely on axles that have steering wheels so not likely to be problem with rigid trailer axles. Maybe right
Quote: Ribski wrote in post #6Yep.....
...maybe wrong...
It's the out-of-balance wheel and tyre which causes the vibration, irrespective of what it's attached to. Isn't it stating the bleedin' obvious to say that you feel it more through the steering wheel because you're holding on to it with your hands? Have you never had a speed-related vibration in the car which didn't go away after having had the fronts rebalanced, but which did after doing the rears as well?
If you haven't, you's a lucky bloke.
Either that, or you've got a numb arse.....
Would you ask a tyre fitter not to bother with balancing the rears if you were in for a new set of four or just replacing those two?
This whole thing is a bit like the old chestnut about whether or not a tree falling over in the forest makes a noise if there's no-one there to hear it.
Just because you can't feel the vibration caused by an out-of-balance trailer or caravan tyre doesn't mean that there isn't one there.
It may not cause a problem per se, but if there's a possibility that it might, surely the smart choice is to get the wheels balanced as a matter of course whenever the tyres are changed.
Why on earth wouldn't it be?
If you can prevent a potential problem at next-to-no expense and no inconvenience whatsoever, why wouldn't you do it?
It makes no sense to me at all.
Preventative maintenance with a hefty dose of mechanical empathy chucked in for good measure. Just do it. Bonkers not to.....
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RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Thu May 04, 2017 12:37 pmby Williebraveheart • | 351 Posts
Having worked in the tyre industry for 25 years in a previous life I can assure you that all tyres should be balanced at fitting. Whilst not necessarily important due to the mileages a caravan completes incorrect balance can have an affect on tyre life and will almost certainly have a detrimental affect on the vehicle due to vibration, etc. At worst it could render a vehicle unstable. Whether anyone can detect this in their set up or not, it is happening if your tyres are out of balance. I cannot understand anyone putting a vehicle on the road in anything other than tip top condition. Nobody now would argue that smoking is not harmful but there are still people who have smoked all their lives and live to a right old age. Doesn't make it right.
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RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Thu May 04, 2017 12:41 pmby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
Quote: Williebraveheart wrote in post #10Spot on.
Having worked in the tyre industry for 25 years in a previous life I can assure you that all tyres should be balanced at fitting. Whilst not necessarily important due to the mileages a caravan completes incorrect balance can have an affect on tyre life and will almost certainly have a detrimental affect on the vehicle due to vibration, etc. At worst it could render a vehicle unstable. Whether anyone can detect this in their set up or not, it is happening if your tyres are out of balance. I cannot understand anyone putting a vehicle on the road in anything other than tip top condition. Nobody now would argue that smoking is not harmful but there are still people who have smoked all their lives and live to a right old age. Doesn't make it right.
Maybe you could print it off and send it to eribaMotters.
I've got his address here somewhere.
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RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Thu May 04, 2017 3:37 pmby eribaMotters • | 5.605 Posts
RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Fri May 05, 2017 8:00 pmby Ray Lawrence • | 671 Posts
Err, an oxymoron here if ever (even if I've spelt it right)
Why post "no comment" unless you've got something to say?
I've just looked further back to see what is not worth commenting about.
I have been towing caravans since the world dried out after Noah's flood. In that time I have had fitted several tyres to caravans. I can't for the life of me remember if they were balanced or not.
If it was a very serious issue, surely it would have come to the forefront of caravan towing issues in the modern era of fora but it has not. In the last 40 years plus that I have towed "unbalanced" caravans, I have not lost any fillings in my teeth, my toilet door has not fallen off and I can't think of any other problem that might have been blamed on unbalanced caravan wheel tyres.
I don't tow at 80 mph where such inbalance may have an effect therefore I am smuggly confident not to worry about it :)
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RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Fri May 05, 2017 9:14 pmby eribaMotters • | 5.605 Posts
RE: New tyre balancing
in Anything Eriba-related Fri May 05, 2017 9:20 pmby Poptop320 • | 2.634 Posts
A bit of blurb from Practical Caravan magazine:
Balancing
Caravan manufactures do not have the wheels on their new caravans balanced, and it is a moot point whether or not balancing is worthwhile since the suspension on the caravan – unlike that on any tow vehicle – is very basic. However, when having tyres replaced, the dealer usually offers to balance the wheels and in our opinion the slight increase in cost is worthwhile since balancing will do no harm and might even improve the stability of the outfit.
http://www.practicalcaravan.com/advice/2...ow-about-safety
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