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Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:56 pm
by GWB (deleted)
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Fitting the Eriba/Kampa awning rain moulding, or whatever it's called, is a complete pain.
We had water into the Pop Air awning last week so decided upon returning home to fit the moulding onto the gutter channel. What a pain in the butt. Finally I had to ease the groove in the moulding for its entire length and then tap in place with a rubber mallet. This works but take care with the mallet, to much pressure could depress the awning channel and make fitting the awning difficult. Finally got it fitted and will be leaving in place, frankly virtually impossible to fit on site.
I'm sure it will work but I think Eriba should rethink the design and make it more user friendly.
Hope this helps other frustrated Eribafolk.


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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:06 am
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

The gutter strip isn't an Eriba product - it's available from more than one awning supplier and is almost certainly an off-the-shelf item from an entirely different company. It probably wasn't even designed to be an Eriba gutter strip in the first place. Quite a lot of these kind of things seem to be an afterthought. Or a bodge, if you're being unkind.

Maybe it's a bit much to expect the means of attaching the awning to the caravan to be completely watertight anyway.

If you want to be able to fasten one of many different versions of a tent to a tin box again and again and be able to do it in a couple of minutes you'll never match the weatherproofing of a permanent installation.

There's always going to be a compromise somewhere.

Having said that, there are a couple of other people on here who have used this stuff from Seals Direct instead. Apparently it's a lot easier to fit and does an impossible job just as well.

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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:46 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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The gutter strip (or Weisse strip as named and supplied by Walker awnings) will, by itself, do nothing to prevent rain water from entering the awning.

A look at the image below, with the application of a bit of school time physics, clearly shows that with the best will in the world rain water collected in the Eriba channel can't possibly rise to the height of the white strip. Once the rain gutter is full the collected water will overflow into the channel immediately below which is of course the awning channel where it is free to flow towards the front of the van or the rear depending upon any inclination i.e. the van is not standing perfectly level.

If a perfect seal is achieved between the upper surface of the Eriba rain channel and the white strip the overflowing water from the rain channel will overflow into the awning channel both behind and in front of the white strip.

Unlike a 'normal' caravan whereby the awning rail (groove) is a single and uninterrupted run around three side of the caravan, the Eriba rail is of a single horizontal construction which in heavy rain lends itself to easily and quite quickly filling with water. The build up of water can be made worse when cable ties are inserted through the drain holes in order to reduce the build up of black streaks which partially block the drain holes.

As any awning beading threaded into the rail doesn't form a watertight seal irrespective of how difficult it can sometimes be to thread the beading along the channel, water can find it's way along the beading run and if in sufficient quantities overflow into the awning itself.

In my opinion, the only way of ensuring that water that is sitting in the awning rail doesn't run along the rail and into the awning is to effectively block off the ends after the awning beading has been fed into the rail. I would suggest using something that can easily be molded into shape but remains pliable and as one member mentioned some time back now, the use of Blue-Tac might well serve the purpose well.

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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:04 pm
by Soulbluesman (deleted)
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Hi Pepe
Do you remember why people thought this stuff from Seals Direct was easier to use than the white plastic moulding that Kampa sell as an optional extra? Is it softer and more pliable?
Thanks MikeT


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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:15 pm
by mr_underhill | 688 Posts

It's made of rubber and I can put it on my Puck in less than 3 minutes ! It has metal teeth to hold it tight. I ordered 3 metres and cut it to fit my rail, with a small overhang on each end. Here's the link. http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/pdf/ETS1395DR.pdf


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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:33 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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I don't see any spouts on the corners of the gutter although the black streaks suggest there are some. Are my eyes playing up?



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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:14 pm
by hob (deleted)
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The rail on Pucks that age does not go all the way round Alan.

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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:50 pm
by Soulbluesman (deleted)
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I was wondering the same as Deeps. Thanks for explaining. MikeT


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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:33 am
by Squirte (deleted)
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Hi, I bought 4m of the rubber moulding earlier this week and it is brilliant. Fits well, not secure enough to drive with it on, but would look daft anyway. Extreemly easy to fit and cost about the same as that white hard plastic seal.
After fitting on my Troll I put the hosepipe on the roof and not a drop passed it. It just directs it to the holes in the rail.


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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:00 am
by Deeps (deleted)
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Quote: Squirte wrote in post #9

After fitting on my Troll I put the hosepipe on the roof and not a drop passed it. It just directs it to the holes in the rail.



Agreed - using the hard plastic variety as supplied by Walker awnings, whilst for some it is difficult to attach to the rail once on does hold back the water as you say. The problems arise (as described in my post above #3) when the volume of water is unable to run out of the spouts (holes) and/or some runs back the other way due to any slight slope in the attitude of the van. As the awning beading does not create a 100% watertight fit in the rail - despite sometimes being hard to thread through - and also that the covering material absorbs water, there comes a point when water starts to drip into the awning itself. I myself will be attempting the method of once the beading has been inserted into the rail of blocking off the ends using something like Blue-tac (?) as someone once suggested and see does that make a difference.


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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:35 pm
by Dodo (deleted)
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I purchased a Walker awning for my Eriba Troll together with the plastic gutter guard. The guard fitted easily once I master the knack. Its now firmly in position and I leave it in place whilst travelling. There seems no reason to provide additional fixing or to remove with the awning.
Hope this helps.


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RE: Eriba/Kampa rain moulding.

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:24 pm
by Soulbluesman (deleted)
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Thanks Squirte.

I have only half-heartedly tried to get the white strip on the van (or indeed the Kampa Awning) due to problems with my hips. However now I have a six week old sparkly replacement hip I will give serious attempt to get the white strip on in the next few weeks of recovery. If I am unsuccessful I will follow your lead and get this more pliable alternative.

I will keep the Forum informed of the solution,for those interested. MikeT


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