We have toured with sundry caravans in France since the early 1980s. Without really now being sure why, I always assumed that I was limited to 90kph, and that is pretty much what I stick to now. I will also have a look around and see if I can add anything to the useful info provided by Randa.

100 kph or 62 mph always seemed fast enough for me it was a long time ago, but we toured Europe extensively and also bought the van (Burstner) back to the UK regularly, which in itself was a 1400 mile round trip. I think my logic might have been that I used (correctly or incorrectly) the UK limits (which is stupid really, but it's what I did) honestly.

I saw others overtaking sure but they were often in a car more suited to that (we had a 2.5 ltr swb Shogun) whilst it towed brilliantly it really needed a 6 th gear!

Whatever speed you tow at take care

Quote: Randa france wrote in post #1

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When we toured Germany a few years ago we were aware of the fact that caravans are restricted to a max. speed limit of 50 mph unless they are subjected to a TuV test.

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Hi Deeps - appreciated your explanation about the TUV paperwork as I ordered and received this with my new Troll recently. However, there was no accompanying sticker & as we're hoping to include Germany on our tour later this year, might you be able to advise where I can obtain the required 100 kph sticker please?

I come from a long background of towing (admittedly trailers) & appreciate the dangers so it's not that I'm planning to burn along at a 100 but it'd be nice to have the option, if only for overtaking. If you can help, that'd be great :)

Hi Craig and Anna.

Obtaining a 100km/h sticker is easy - just pop into any petrol station and/or vehicle accessory shop and grab one off the shelf. They probably even have them dotted around in the UK somewhere.

HOWEVER, things are not that simple unfortunately because the sticker has to be officially stamped by a registration office and without this stamp the thing is not valid.

I could go into a very long explanation of the whole process but see that this question has already been asked somewhere else. I feel sure that the forum admins here will not mind me posting the following link because some of the members here are already members over there LOL. I would recommend having a good read through all the posts (don't worry there aren't too many) and then decide for yourselves as to whether or not it's worth the effort. As you'll see from the posts - some clearly think it isn't.

And of course, should you have any further questions don't hesitate to get back.. ..... http://www.caravantalk.co.uk/community/t...-certification/

Some additional info for France : many of the dual carriageways now are restricted to 90kms for certain stretches and not 110kms. It's really only in the dangerous places. More and more of towns are 30kms in some areas. Something to be aware of as the signs are often a bit thin on the ground and apparently Gendarmes will fine Brits on the spot.
Don't forget that speed limits are automatically lower by 10kms in the rain although there are no signs to tell you that.

Recently acquired our new Troll. Cameron at AL wasn't too clued-up about the TUV certification on offer but having researched the situation (as well as toured Germany previously) we knew that being able to get up to 100kph instead of being restricted to 80kph, with a relatively stable van/car combination, wasn't a bad idea.

So we ordered the TUV paperwork. Especially as Eribas are imports so are far (far) easier to get the Tempo certification than any British van.

However - it wasn't cheap and it rather looks like it's been written by a child (messy & difficult to read is the best way to describe it). Also - it didn't come supplied with a Tempo 100 sticker. Yes - we could just get a 100kph sticker but the forums suggest that the sticker on its own is insufficient - it needs to be stamped with an official seal (or suchlike).

https://www.tuv-nord.com/en/checks-and-i...proval-2618.htm

So - our question is this - has anyone else done similar & got the all-important sticker? If not, has anyone got the Tempo 100 or TUV certification either online or in person on the continent?

Islay
Are you implying that if the speed limit is 30kms that in the rain you reduce your speed to 20kms, that's 12.5mph!

No, not in town!

( A pity that you've started a second thread on this subject as it now makes it difficult to follow for others perhaps requiring the same info either now or at some time in the future. )

Admin. note:- Threads have been amalgamated.

Oh well - the fact remains that if you want to obtain the duly stamped and therefore authorised 100km/h sticker you will need to call in to a KFZ Zullassungstelle (vehicle registration office) in person. If you look closely at the attached image you will see the stamp that I earlier referred to in the earlier thread. In reality it is a sticker displaying the State emblem which is then stamped (not visible in the picture, sorry) and this in turn is stuck on the 100km/h sticker.

I'm unsure of what you mean with the title of your question 'Tempo 100 (TUV Certification) isn't quite what it seems'. What isn't exactly as it seems? The TUV certificate that is issued with uprated vans that qualify for the 100km/h sticker (or in your case, later obtained) is a certificate of qualification for the sticker and has nothing to do with the issuing of the sticker itself. In the UK vehicles are subjected to an MOT test for which a certificate is issued. In a similar way, this is merely a certificate of conformity and you are not at the same time issued with an insurance certificate or road tax sticker (as was) although you need the MOT certificate to legally quality for the latter.

Again, as explained earlier, the Zullassungstelle will want to see all the relevant documents in particular the certificate of conformity which you already have and which was issued by the TÜV and the caravans registration document which of course you don't have. Depending on the day of the week and the mood the assistant is in, he/she may consider that as a tourist it prudent to overlook the vans registration document - or lack of - but there is no way of telling until you actually arrive.

If you tell me the route you intend taking and particular the towns/cities in Germany that you will pass through during the early stages of your trip, I should be able to give advice on the nearest and convenient KFZ Zullasungstelle on that route with opening times and contact information etc. It might then be worth your while firing off an email to them explaining the situation and see what they come back with.

NOT MENTIONED THUS FAR is that to comply with the law you (and others of course) will need to apply for an Environmental Badge (windscreen sticker) if you intend driving through towns, cities and villages displaying the Umwelt Zone sign. The good news is that you can apply online for this although please be advised that the map shown on the linked page is by no means up to date to my knowledge even though a date of 2016 is shown.

As a final point - the link you refer to is an explanation in English for English speaking peoples living in Germany and as such is not meant to be a guide for foreign visitors.

http://www.environmental-badge.co.uk/en/...ntal-badge.html

Sticker.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)

Quote: Randa france wrote in post #12

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We found that the cheapest and most efficient way to do it was to Email Berlin with a copy of your car's V5 Registration Document. https://www.berlin.de/labo/mobilitaet/kf...op.86595.en.php

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Crumbs - it's almost not worth the bother (although we probably will!). Thank you all for this very helpful advice and information (especially Deeps - I couldn't work out why no sticker was supplied but your explanation makes sense).