Fridge on 12V
It’s gas only off grid Malcolm.
Even when connected to the car the 12v only maintains temperature. It has very limited cooling power.
The gas cooling is actually very effective.
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What is gas consumption like when running the fridge 24x7 plus 10L water boiler plus cooking/making coffee on the burners? We are off grid for May bank holiday and I'm wondering if I'll need two 6kg bottles of propane (currently have one which is ~90% full). We're hoping we won't need the heater, the water boiler will be used sparingly, if at all, and the fridge will be run at 'cool box' temperature.
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RE: Fridge on 12V
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:58 pmby Randa france • | 13.287 Posts
A 907 Camping Gaz bottle for the fridge alone, lasted us around 11 days (and that was in Spain). We didn't use gas for anything else during that time.
The 907 Gaz bottle only contains 2.72 kg of gas ( in a 250 mm high cylinder with a 202 mm diameter).
The 6kg Propane bottle is over twice the quantity and size (495 mm high and 256 mm diameter) so should be more than adequate for your needs.
Randa
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A typical fridge will consume at least 80 watts. That's nearly 7 amps at 12 volts. That means that if you have a 100 amp hour battery, you could flatten it in about 14 hours continuous running. Even with a solar panel providing daytime backup, you would be having night time problems which might ruin your battery. As Frantone said, it's a no-no.
RE: Fridge on 12V
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:23 pmby steamdrivenandy (deleted)
Quote: Pudelwagen wrote in post #5
A typical fridge will consume at least 80 watts. That's nearly 7 amps at 12 volts. That means that if you have a 100 amp hour battery, you could flatten it in about 14 hours continuous running. Even with a solar panel providing daytime backup, you would be having night time problems which might ruin your battery. As Frantone said, it's a no-no.
And it can't happen anyway as it's not configured to run off the battery. The 12 volt is only for direct supply from the car's 12 volt system. Once it's disconnected from the car you have two options, 230/240 volt mains via hook up, or gas.
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'Cos I knew how much you loved the sun.
But you chose to stay, stay and keep me warm
Through the darkest nights I've ever known'.
Thank you Randa. Very happy to read your response. I had absolutely no idea, having got through 904's like nobody's business when we were tenting in the past. Cold gin and tonics will be flowing in the New Forest after all.
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RE: Fridge on 12V
in Anything Eriba-related Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:13 pmby steamdrivenandy (deleted)
We used 907's in our campervan. A quick Google says that Towsure sell empty cylinders for £12.00 and Go Outdoors will swap it for a refill at £35, which seems an awful lot. 2.72kg of gas at £35 is £12.87 per kg.
The list price for a refill of a Calor 6kg cylinder is £21.85 or £3.64 per kg.
'Well the rain came, I thought you'd leave
'Cos I knew how much you loved the sun.
But you chose to stay, stay and keep me warm
Through the darkest nights I've ever known'.
RE: Fridge on 12V
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:45 amby Randa france • | 13.287 Posts
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Quote SDA:- The list price for a refill of a Calor 6kg cylinder is £21.85 or £3.64 per kg.
Yes, but you wouldn't get it for that price in France, or Germany, or any other European country for that matter because..........you wouldn't get it.
We stick with Camping Gaz as we use very little if any so there's no point in carrying 2 large Calor bottles around with us on our long trips to Europe. In fact there's little point in us carrying 2 qty 907 Gaz bottles with us but we are creatures of habit and used to carry them when we were tenters with no hook up many moons ago before the Great Flood.
Randa
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RE: Fridge on 12V
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:21 amby steamdrivenandy (deleted)
I agree that if you don't use much gas anyway the cost per kg isn't a cause for concern and we've had our current 6kg cylinder for about 3 years and it's still only half empty/full. We only use it for the cooking hobs and that's it. But if you regularly use pitches without hook up and have a gas boiler as well as heating in cool weather you can go through them quite quickly and as well as swapping more often, with a 907 you're paying an awful lot more, whether it's cleaner burning with a higher calorific value or not.
'Well the rain came, I thought you'd leave
'Cos I knew how much you loved the sun.
But you chose to stay, stay and keep me warm
Through the darkest nights I've ever known'.
RE: Fridge on 12V
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:55 amby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
One thing to remember is that on 12v when towing, the fridge is only designed to keep the already cold contents cool.
It's a good idea, therefore to run the fridge for some hours before setting off to get it really cold (we run ours on mains overnight) and then load it with cold items from the domestic fridge and freezers just before the start of the journey.
Also, even though you may have no intention of running the fridge on gas on site, always check that the burner will light prior to setting off. If the 240v element should fail while on holiday, you then know that you will be able to use gas as an emergency back up. Same goes for the igniter in the gas fire.
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RE: Fridge on 12V
in Anything Eriba-related Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:15 pmby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
It always makes oi larf whenever people whinge about the cost of gas to the extent that they won't even countenance turning the valve on.
'I've paid for my electricity, and by jingo I'm going to use it...'
The reason it makes me laugh is that this is often in the context of an extended trip to somewhere in Yerp which involves an expensive - sometimes a very expensive - channel crossing, gallons and gallons of petrol or diesel, road toll charges, umpteen meals out, drinky-poos and a van full of souvenirs in the shape of several thousand litres of assorted wines.
Do you not feel even the tiniest shred of hypocrisy as you stand there grumbling about a tenner's worth of butane?
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