Pop-top Gel Coat Protector
Pop-top Gel Coat Protector
in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:47 pmby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
I've just been looking at the 303 Products technical data pages and found that their "Aerospace Protectant Spray" is recommended for the treatment of gel coat finishes.
Apparently, all you have to do is spray it onto a non-waxed surface (leave roof exposed to elements for a few weeks for the effectiveness of any existing wax to be reduced), and rub off with a soft rag while still wet.
Has anyone used it? It sounds to be the ideal treatment for Eriba roofs. Have a look here
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:01 pmby Agger (deleted)
I've just read that and if what they claim is right I may end up using that on our roof.
I broke both arms when I was a tearaway and the arthritic legacy is catching up with this old dodderer I can apply pressure to the sides of the van for washing / polishing / waxing purposes but downward pressure for the same on the roof causes immense pain and my doctor has warned of elbow replacement.
At 60 I don't feel doddery and can and do feel quite fit overweight with it.
I'dike to know what it's really like before I take the plunge though
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:30 pmby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #1These people have.
Has anyone used it?
Looks as if it might be promising.
Anything with numbers in the name is bound to be good
Speaking of things with numbers in the name, I tried some ACF-50 on the underside of the jalopy. Now that stuff is highly recommended, and not just by me.
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:20 pmby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
I've ordered some gel coat protector and will report back when I've had chance to splodge in on the roof.
Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #3When I took up shooting some years ago the lads in the local gun shop recommended ACF-50 for protecting rifle bores after cleaning but they always referred to it as 'Purple Smeg." A top product.
Speaking of things with numbers in the name, I tried some ACF-50 on the underside of the jalopy. Now that stuff is highly recommended, and not just by me.
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:27 pmby Pop540 (deleted)
yes I also was impressed with the data given and lets just say, the finish was not as we expected was quite patchy, having tried to follow destructions, still had issues, of the dull patches. do I really want to cut and compound to get a equal finish No not again.
the pluses are crocs look good with aero on..chairs plastic chairs look restored,
the dash board may enjoy some, and the eriba handles but not using on eriba roof anymore.
Perhaps you will manage much better than other half and I did, less is more they say. try on the top of the pop first where it cant be seen.
we used micro fibre cloths, perhaps that's where we went wrong.
so moving on from aerospace, after some research well lots really between farcela uv stuff and 3m r&w
ordered a small bottle of 3m restorer and wax. 90005e when it arrives will let you know its performance.
Eriba troll 540 likes constant hugs, and buffs and the odd cuppa.
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:47 pmby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
I made a start on treating the roof yesterday first by washing with car shampoo to remove the remnants of the Saharan dust, bird poo etc and then set to with gunge and elbow grease once it had dried.
In the past I have waxed the bits of the roof that I can access, the last time being in mid 2013 so it should have worn off long ago. However, the surface was a bit streaky and covered in places with a pale grey film. I soon found that rubbing the liquid into this surface was hard work - damned hard work - and I suspect that I probably would have been better off if I'd gone over the whole roof with a mild rubbing compound before using the protectant.
Anyway, I persevered and gradually the grey film disappeared and the gel coat started to gleam. I didn't have time to finish the job so the whole of the lifting part of the roof and a small area at the rear remains to be done when I can work out a safe way of accessing it without damaging self or caravan.
At the moment the rain is absolutely hissing down and the treated areas are beading water just like newly waxed car panels. So, first impressions are that if you are starting off with a less than pristine, wax-free surface, you could be in for a some hard work but it looks as though once the surface has been properly treated the product will do as claimed in the advertising blurb and be relatively easy to reapply to maintain its effectiveness.
I'll report further when I've worked out how to get at the roof, the weather has improved and the job is finished.
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:02 pmby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #6It's easy if you lean it over.
I'll report further when I've worked out how to get at the roof...
I did it that way.
There were one or two crashes and bangs from inside as it came off the vertical, but nothing too bad.
Mrs P held it at a helpful angle while I polished. I kept asking her if she was okay, but since she wasn't saying much I just kept going until she went puce and broke into a sweat.
She was alright after a brew and a sit-down.
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:05 pmby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:56 pmby Randa france • | 13.283 Posts
We use one of those step ladders that converts into a small lean to ladder. By popping some lengths of tubular pipe lagging on the aluminium stringers before leaning it against the gutter rail the Eriba roof becomes easily accessible.
Haven't seen our roof gleaming so much since we bought the van.
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:50 pmby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:25 pmby Pop540 (deleted)
sorry to say that's exactly what we found with the aero stuff and it didn't get any easier
popped up to do ours yesterday dressed like an alien as one neighbour remarked, well you get snow blindness in full sun. and the 3m stuff has ingredient that may cause cancer so needed covering up and a face mask because the dust not good, not happy this ingredient was not mentioned in the technical anywhere on web....but its mentioned on back of bottle
the roof is gleaming and is uv protected for 3months with the 3m stuff
we use the step ladders backwards so the step runs are close to eriba, then there is the leaning.
interestingly used a sander with speed turned down to 1 with a soft base and lamb wool bonnet, it worked whole lot lighter to operate than a polisher, the 125 pad is small but with my issue was able to manage, sadly today the pain and fatigue has set in from yesterdays efforts, not been able to do anything
hope your roof improves
next will test the farcela uv stuff that is supposed to last 6months. If and when the energy returns and pain subsides, not liking any contact with anything that may cause cancer
good luck
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:25 amby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
UPDATE
1. Access to the roof
Following Randa's advice, I cut two pieces of pipe insulation to slip over the parts of the ladder that will contact the gutter rail and, as you can see, it's a simple and effective way of preventing damage. I can confirm that access to all parts of the roof is now comparatively easy.
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2. Existing roof condition
In the past I have been lazy and only polished the bits of the roof that I could reach easily. The photos show that a) the untouched parts of the roof are still white whereas the polished areas are grey. b) parts of the roof that have been previously polished are covered in grey swirls which fortunately are not normally visible to the casual observer. The task is now to return the lustre to the gel coat without causing damage to my arms and back.
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3. A possible way forward?
As I don't want to have to compound the roof unless I have no other option, I shall try the following method suggested in the manufacturer's data sheet:
"Older Surfaces:
Even after a few years without care, it may be unnecessary to compound before using 303®. Use 303® to find out for sure:
First apply 303® normally. If this does not restore the like new color and gloss typical with 303®, try this: In the shade (or just before dark), spray a basketball-sized spot with 303®. Rub it in and spray again to make sure the spot is thoroughly wet with 303®. Let set for a few hours or overnight. Spray the spot again with 303® and wipe dry. This is often all it takes to make gelcoat look like new again without compounding."
Fingers crossed.
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:07 amby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #12I hope you've got a basketball, otherwise you're in trouble.
In the shade (or just before dark), spray a basketball-sized spot with 303®.
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:15 pmby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #13Bugger! I knew there would be something I'd overlooked.
]I hope you've got a basketball, otherwise you're in trouble.
Anyway, 'tis now irrelevant as being eager to crack on I reached for the T-Cut and have now compounded the whole roof to an even white colour ready for the application of the miracle liquid. The rubbing compound removed the grey discolouration with hardly any effort and I'm very pleased with the result so far.
I popped the roof to get at the bits covered when it's down and the areas revealed are absolutely pristine and in factory-fresh condition. I wish the rest of the roof was. Sob!
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in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:30 pmby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
ALL DONE
Once all the old wax had been removed, application of the protectant was an absolute doddle and unlike waxing, no hard work was required - so no aching arms and shoulders.
The finish is excellent and I now have a uniform white roof that is absolutely gleaming as can be seen in the before and after pictures below.
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Conclusions and recommendations:
1. This product is much easier to apply than wax polish, provided the roof surface has been adequately prepared prior to the first application.
2. The final finish adds a deep lustre to the fibreglass similar to that of a newly wax polished finish but with much less effort and in a fraction of the time.
3. Using a padded stepladder allows easy access to the roof but take care that it cannot slip while you are working as serious damage to self and/or caravan may result.
4. Wash the roof thoroughly and dry it off before starting work. It is important to remove dirt, bird droppings, tree sap etc. that could scratch the surface or prevent the protectant from working. Don't forget to wash the areas hidden when the pop-top is in its lowered position.
5. If your roof has been waxed in the past I would suggest that despite the manufacturer's claim that it is unnecessary you give it a mild once-over with T-Cut rubbing compound to ensure a clean surface for the protectant to work on.
6. Set the nozzle on the bottle to 'fine spray' and thoroughly wet an area of the roof that you can reach comfortably without over-stretching - I found about four square feet to be about right.
7. Have lots of clean, soft cloths handy as you have to wipe the product off the surface while it is still wet and you will need to change cloths frequently as they become damp.
8 Although the manufacturers make no reference to it in their instructions and data sheet, I found that buffing the surface over with a dry cloth a few minutes after the whole roof had been treated improved its lustre.
Only time will tell how effective the product is at protecting the gel coat but so far, after the initial blip with the remnants of the old wax finish, I am very impressed. Re-applying the protectant should be very easy now that the initial surface preparation has been carried out and the first coat of the product has been successfully applied.
I'll report back on how the protectant stands up to the elements in a few months' time.
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