Number plate obliteration
Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:53 amby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
I apologise in advance if anyone thinks I'm asking this question simply to be provocative; mostly I'm not, though there might be a tiny weeny little bit of me that is, I s'pose...
Why does anyone bother obliterating number plates on photographs posted on here?
I don't understand the logic of it, I'm afraid. If it's a matter of doing it to avoid some scally cloning your plate, that doesn't make sense for a couple of reasons.
Firstly, I'd have thought it was highly unlikely that some ne-er-do-well would be poking around in this dusty little corner of the Internet for cars with plates worth cloning.
Secondly, if he wanted to find a target for real he'd be better off standing by a busy junction for ten minutes with a pencil and a bit of paper.
Is it not wanting to advertise the fact that you are away on holiday and your house might be a sitting target for some dubious-looking geezer in a stripy shirt carrying a bag with swag written on it?
If so, that fails to take into account that someone with such evil intent had the wherewithal - or the inclination - to find your address from your number plate when there are countless other - and easier - ways of picking a house to do over.
I realise that it's not terribly important in the overall scheme of things. I'm just curious to try and understand the reasoning.
I asked a similar question in the other place a few years ago, and despite nobody coming up with a convincing argument on there they still say (or at least I assume they do) that you should make it illegible.
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RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:01 pmby Steamdrivenandy (deleted)
I'm with you Pete, I can't see a logical reason, but it all seems to spread from the personal data issue and the fact that newspaper blur no. Plates as a matter of course, although that is for understandable security reasons and I doubt anyone is interested in our Joe Soap reg. Plates.
Amber a Lunar Quasar 464 Sussex Amberley Sussex Caravans dealer special pushing a '59 reg. Kia Cee'd 3 SW 1.6 CRDi Automatic, a rough towing ratio of 86%.
RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:13 pmby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
If I was minded to get upset about this kind of thing, it's far more likely to be the automatic number plate recognition - ANPR - cameras popping up all over the place. It's quite difficult to go somewhere these days without someone knowing where you've been, and that's the kind of data hoarding I find objectionable.
Still, as long as there are people quite happy to subscribe to the notion that as long as you've done nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about, we'll all be okay.
Won't we?
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RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:20 pmby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:21 pmby KeithF (deleted)
Hi With you all the way on this ,I could walk to my local shops and be filmed ,I don't have a criminal record ,if local known criminals were being targeted and filmed it would infringe their human rights,
RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:57 pmby johnnyb44 (deleted)
Sorry to go off topic a little but what do these ANPR cameras look like. I've noticed these strange grey twin lenses cameras appearing all over the place recently usually attached to lamposts etc. I was just curious to what they were.
RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:38 pmby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
Quote: johnnyb44 wrote in post #7There are different kinds of ANPR cameras.
Sorry to go off topic a little but what do these ANPR cameras look like. I've noticed these strange grey twin lenses cameras appearing all over the place recently usually attached to lamposts etc. I was just curious to what they were.
Some of them are on here.
The website showing those cameras clearly represents one side of the 'surveillance' argument. I didn't post it with that in mind, though I am inclined towards their point of view, as it happens.
This might help, too. There's a list of all the sodding things...
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RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:36 pmby Poptop320 • | 2.634 Posts
[quote="Pepé Le Pew"|p6790]I apologise in advance if anyone thinks I'm asking this question simply to be provocative; mostly I'm not, though there might be a tiny weeny little bit of me that is, I s'pose...
Why does anyone bother obliterating number plates on photographs posted on here?
Im not offended with the question in the slightest, however I have little story to tell why I blank out my number plates.
About 19 years before the world wide web took off I use to have a little blue mini metro, I have always been a law abiding citizen so it was a bit of a shock when out of the blue I started to receive parking tickets for it, this was really inconvenient and took a lot of my time as I had to prove where I was to avoid the escalation of more fines and a summons . That is bad enough to warrant blanking out my number plates however the story gets more interesting.
I was away with the Army when I was ordered to go and see my OC , he told me that he had the police on the phone asking a lot questions about me and he had to verify an alibi that I was indeed away on military service.
What had happened was that my cloned plates on a blue metro had been used to do an armed robbery at a post office , the police arrived in force at my house and of course the car and I wasn't there which made things look more suspicious, they interviewed my wife for some considerable time about my whereabouts which frightened her.
Anyway now with the advent of the world wide web I don't fancy Interpol having a warrant for my arrest as it now has a much bigger audience than the man with a pencil and note pad on a street corner, If I Google pictures of Dacia Duster my car is plucked out from the various forums that I have added my cars picture.
So for example if I wanted to avoid speeding tickets or I don't have any insurance, all you have to do is search for a car the same colour and make as yours and clone the plate, it will be very difficult for the APN to discover that the offender hasn't got any insurance or road tax and it will also send parking and speeding tickets somewhere else.
So for me I will keep blanking my plates.
I like to pop my top when I go on holiday
RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:55 pmby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:56 pmby Poptop320 • | 2.634 Posts
Quote: Frantone wrote in post #11
......but wasn't Pete's point that it is infinitely more likely that your plates will be cloned on the street rather than in a forum gallery???
Yes and that is obviously what happened to me, however as I said in the last thread you are allowing yourself to be viewed by a much bigger unscrupulous audience from the convenience of their armchair
I like to pop my top when I go on holiday
RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:57 pmby Poptop320 • | 2.634 Posts
Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #12
What I find hard to believe about that story is that anyone would be stupid enough to rob a post office using a Mini Metro. I can think of better getaway cars.
Bloody amateurs!
To be honest if they had used mine they would have got caught....
I like to pop my top when I go on holiday
RE: Number plate obliteration
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:08 pmby Pepé Le Pew • | 2.752 Posts
Quote: Poptop320 wrote in post #10Would it be right to assume that the car onto which 'your' cloned plates were put was stolen?
About 19 years before the world wide web took off I use to have a little blue mini metro...
Nineteen years before the advent of the Internet it was dead easy to nick a motor by touching two wires together under the dashboard.
You can't do that with a modern car.
If cloning plates to dodge speeding and parking tickets was as rife as you imply, why is it that car dealerships (and Autotrader) - for example - don't blank out the plates on cars they are advertising on the web?
I don't doubt you can find pictures of your car on various forums, but you wouldn't be able to if they weren't there, and I still think that persons of nefarious intent have much more rewarding places to look than some obscure and insignificant caravan forum.
Which is what this is, after all.
I'm happy to agree to disagree, but while it doesn't make you any more inclined to stop blanking your plates, what risks there are don't make me any more inclined to start doing it.
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