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#31

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Mon May 04, 2015 1:56 pm
by hampshireman (deleted)

Not very chuffed now of course, but thanks John. I haven't got a multi thing and with AC and DC I am lost, honest haven't a clue with lecs so will wait till tomorrow.

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#32

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Mon May 04, 2015 2:23 pm
by hob (deleted)

If something like a remote has been dropped the shock of hitting the ground sometimes squashes the spring at one end of the battery compartment making the batteries loose in the compartment.
This can cause intermittent problems as the batteries fail to make contact 100% of the time.
Solution is to gently stretch the spring until they fit better.

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#33

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Mon May 04, 2015 2:39 pm
by hampshireman (deleted)

Thanks Neville, not doing anymore till phone call tomorrow, but this morning I fiddled with the batteries as we did before during and after Stratford. Nothing worked at all.

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#34

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Mon May 04, 2015 3:52 pm
by Agger (deleted)

Quote: Pep� Le Pew wrote in post #22

I realise too that a certain gentleman from Glou*estershire with a BMW 3 series and a Troll will say that movers are for pansies and that he can reverse his Troll into a fairy ring without squashing a single mushroom

I think that's great, and honestly I'm full of admiration for his skill, but it doesn't alter the fact that since we have a mover there's absolutely no point not using it, and when we are, I'd like to have it work properly.

I don't have a mover as most of you know

I defend your right to have one though! My personal opinion is whilst I am fit and able I'll do without, if and when it becomes necessary we would re-evaluate. As for the 3 series BMW (maybe not for much longer, been test driving since Thursday!

) again as for the Troll hmmmm maybe not for much longer either

(decision awaits!😎)

To often we see what is a great piece of kit (Reich mover, other movers) let down by what seems to be an afterthought design and functionality on a remote box

Likes to wax and have a smooth finish!

It's a conspiracy, I tell you!

#35

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Mon May 04, 2015 4:16 pm
by JohnE (deleted)

Quote: Pep� Le Pew wrote in post #22
Anyway, back to the aerial. Are you about, John? Any thoughts on this thing?

This is wot I wrote a few years ago, Pete (when I had a lot more hair and a physique of bronze whipcord).

'...the Reich manual suggests that the antenna can be extended to 54cm, but I don't think this means fitting a 54cm-long wire - it just wouldn't be the correct length for its radio frequency of 868MHz. The fitted length of wire [on my base station] is 8.6cm long which forms a quarter-wavelength whip antenna for that frequency.*
I suspect the manual is suggesting to extend the 8.6cm antenna on a length of coax up to 54cm long, but I'm not certain and I'd be interested to find out if anyone's successfully tried the mover with a longer wire.'

* The length of an efficient antenna is generally an integer number of quarter wavelengths at the operating frequency, where wavelength, commonly designated by the Greek letter lambda (λ) = 1/frequency. Reich's suggested antenna length of 54cm just doesn't compute.

Anyway, after trying various lengths of antenna, with only a small degree of improvement, I decided on a completely different approach - to mount the base station at window height. To achieve this I relocated it to the internal side wall of the wardrobe where it worked perfectly every time.
Of course, this meant extending the motor cables and fitting longer supply cables, but the results proved it was worth the effort.

I suspect that moving the base station away from that 25Kg lump of lead might have had something to do with it as well.

ReichBaseStation.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)

Eriba Feeling 425, Saab 9-3 Sportwagon

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#36

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Mon May 04, 2015 4:47 pm
by Pepé Le Pew •

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Quote: JohnE wrote in post #35

This is wot I wrote a few years ago, Pete (when I had a lot more hair and a physique of bronze whipcord).

'...the Reich manual suggests that the antenna can be extended to 54cm, but I don't think this means fitting a 54cm-long wire - it just wouldn't be the correct length for its radio frequency of 868MHz. The fitted length of wire [on my base station] is 8.6cm long which forms a quarter-wavelength whip antenna for that frequency.*
I suspect the manual is suggesting to extend the 8.6cm antenna on a length of coax up to 54cm long, but I'm not certain and I'd be interested to find out if anyone's successfully tried the mover with a longer wire.'

I understand where you're comin' from, you awesomely toned dude.

Init.

I'm happy to have an experiment for you to see what happens using a bit of coax as an extension - I think I've got some small section stuff from a broadband antenna that I could snip off and use.

One question though. The aerial is effectively just a scrap of single core soldered to the pcb, so what do I attach the braided sheath of the coax to at the box end? Anything, or does it just act as passive shielding to give the core a cloak of invisibility to the gamma rays from the remote?

Actually, there is another question. Is there a drop-out vent anywhere handy in front of the offside wheel arch? If there was (and it was within 54cm of our box) I could try dangling the 8.6cm aerial out through it...

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#37

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Mon May 04, 2015 5:30 pm
by Pepé Le Pew •

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Quote: Pep� Le Pew wrote in post #36
...I've got some small section stuff from a broadband antenna that I could snip off and use.

I just found the antenna. It's 165mm (or thereabouts) long from its pivot to its tip, and that's twice the quarter wavelength (or thereabouts - the Internet sometimes says 82mm for a quarter wavelength 868Mhz).

So it's more or less a half wavelength. And it's attached to a length of coax which could be trimmed to 540mm quite easily...

Any reason why I can't try a half wavelength antenna?

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#38

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Mon May 04, 2015 5:43 pm
by JohnE (deleted)

Quote: Pep� Le Pew wrote in post #36
what do I attach the braided sheath of the coax to at the box end?

I don't have access to a Reich base station to confirm this, but if the thing's designed correctly, the antenna's copper pad should be surrounded by (or adjacent to) a ground plane track which you can solder the braided screen to.

Quote: Pep� Le Pew wrote in post #36
Is there a drop-out vent anywhere handy in front of the offside wheel arch?

Drop-out vents are normally only found close to gas appliances, manifolds, valves etc, and you shouldn't have any of these in your Energieversorgungsmodul und Stromschrank.

Be brave, and blow the cobwebs off yer brace n bit

Quote: Pep� Le Pew wrote in post #37
Any reason why I can't try a half wavelength antenna?

None whatsoever, Pete, but make sure you label it λ/2, to avoid confusion in the future

Eriba Feeling 425, Saab 9-3 Sportwagon

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#39

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Mon May 04, 2015 6:05 pm
by Pepé Le Pew •

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Quote: JohnE wrote in post #38

Drop-out vents are normally only found close to gas appliances, manifolds, valves etc, and you shouldn't have any of these in your strom schrank.

Be brave, and blow the cobwebs off yer brace n bit.

I was grasping at straws to save making an hole.

I thought that just maybe some stubbly French geezer might have put a vent in that side last thing on a vendredi après midi. I reckon holes did sometimes get put in the wrong place when the quality control officer was AWOL enjoying une petite liaison dangereuse instead of ticking boxes on a clipboard.

Thanks for all your help.

We'll see how we get on.

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#40

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Mon May 04, 2015 6:58 pm
by crow (deleted)

If you have a battery vent pipe would your aerial fit down that, temporarily of course.

�Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea.�
― Robert A. Heinlein

#41

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Tue May 05, 2015 12:40 pm
by hampshireman (deleted)

AL chap Jason talked me through the tests several times and nowt.

I then called Reich and their bloke was very helpful and talked me through tests again and with the cable attached - Nowt again
He thinks it is the remote and is replacing it overnight. Will try again tomorrow.

Daft question..but I know nothing about electrics - the Eriba is not on a mains connection so should the van motherboard LED light be on? or is that only when the EHU/mains is hooked up?

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#42

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Tue May 05, 2015 2:36 pm
by JohnE (deleted)

Quote: hampshireman wrote in post #41
...not on a mains connection so should the van motherboard LED light be on?

No, the green LED on the front panel of the BIP Unit illuminates only when hooked up to mains and with the incoming circuit breaker/RCD on (the up position).

Zitat
Nowt again... He thinks it is the remote and is replacing it overnight.

Derek, I get called out to quite a few motor mover problems such as yours and nine times out of ten the leisure battery is to blame. I'm not doubting Jason's or Rich's (the guy you probably spoke to at Reich) expertise, but as the remote's already been tested - and they rarely fail - it would be prudent to make doubly sure the leisure battery is fully charged and all associated wiring is ok - especially the mover's cable to the battery clamps.

John

�When passenger of foot heave in sight, tootle the horn. Trumpet him melodiously at first, but if he still obstacles your passage then tootle him with vigour.'

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#43

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Tue May 05, 2015 4:18 pm
by hampshireman (deleted)

Thanks John, appreciate your input and knowledge. We will see what happens tomorrow.

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Pepe's Walk

#44

RE: Quite chuffed with myself.....

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Tue May 05, 2015 4:23 pm
by Pepé Le Pew •

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Quote: hampshireman wrote in post #43
We will see what happens tomorrow.

Any chance of posting a video on YouTube, Derek?

I'd quite like to see a madman with a purple face attempting to throw a mover remote into the next county