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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:25 pm
by Magpie | 675 Posts

At the C&CC site at Sandringham recently the warden was more concerned that we would be pitched in the best position to catch the sun on the side we preferred!! We've only ever been to one CC site. (Our door is not on the wrong side - it's on the right side!)


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:39 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: Magpie wrote in post #16
(Our door is not on the wrong side - it's on the right side!)
If it was on the 'right' side you would access the caravan from the kerb (safe) and not from the carriageway (dangerous). It is therefore on the right side on the Continent and on the wrong side in the UK.

Ideally, Hymer should have swapped the door openings over for UK specification vans but due to the low volume of sales in the UK this would not have been financially viable.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:33 am
by Agger (deleted)
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The problem for me is having owned foreign vans for the best part of 28 years and being a member of the CC this time for 21 years, that the rules seem to be selective! and applied to the easiest target.

Why are we not talking about, early arrivals, speeding on campsites? People using their vehicles to go to the facilities block (who have parked in a nice quiet spot, and are clearly not disabled!) Wobbly white box owners who think they are a cut above BUT take 6 full black bags of rubbish out of their awning after just a weeks stay! Noise after the usually accepted 22.00hrs, kids playing around your pitch (as Mummy & Daddy are getting drunk and enjoying a bbq) the answer = it's easy for some to stay in a nice warm office and enforce the rules , rather than getting out there and sorting out the rowdies!! Or those that think the rules don't apply to them, we (well not me at the moment) are just an easy target.

I aplaud the wardens and the job they do, but it's not in there job description or club rules to enforce "rules" the CC does not impose, and clearly thinks it has a case to answer, as they put it in the CC magazine!!


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:33 am
by ellen (deleted)
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When you join the cc you agree to abide by their rules so if their rules say pitch either nose in or out that's exactly what we should be allowed to do. I'm afraid that if a warden insisted we pitch nose in then he would have to do it himself providing he took responsibility for any damage that could be done. We keep the copy of the cc magazine in Doo-Dah should we be told to pitch nose in. Unless the weather is really bad we always have the awning up and this has a side door giving privacy to our neighbours but regardless of this when they joined the cc they also agreed to abide by their rules which means that on occasion a foreign van my be door to door with them. Ellen.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:18 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

I confess to feeling sympathy for the CC wardens who are damned if they do and damned if they don't. They live on site during the season and like most of us want to lead a quiet life and get on with doing their jobs with the minimum of fuss and argument.

If they allow parking on site either nose-in or nose-out at the whim of the caravan owner then they risk upsetting the people on the adjoining pitches who expect UK custom and practice to be observed. And we all know that there are a lot of professional, rule-obsessed complainers among the CC membership.

On the other hand, if the wardens require continental vans to park nose-in to maintain door to blind-side orientation then they risk upsetting their owners who feel victimised and unfairly treated.

As continental vans are in the minority, the latter is likely to be the preferred option for an easy life.

The problem arises from the lack of uniformity of approach and enforcement. The CC says that pitching either way is acceptable so this should be communicated to all wardens and the general CC membership so that there can be no argument about the ruling. If not, they should make it clear that continental vans will be required to pitch nose-in without exception and then those who were uncomfortable with this ruling could go elsewhere.

I have to agree with Julie, that caravanning on the Continent with a continental van is much simpler and far more enjoyable. The pitches are generally much bigger; they are often divided by hedges to ensure privacy and the site owners have a more casual attitude as to how and where you pitch. Usually we are told to go and find somewhere, get installed and return to reception later to tell them which pitch we've chosen. This is a far more civilised approach and we usually pitch sideways so that where possible the awning faces out onto the site to take advantage of the evening sun.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:06 am
by Bigmandiddyvan (deleted)
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I can see the point of having exit doors and awnings facing the same direction on sites, for privacy and for safety. If you have a foreign van then it makes a lot of sense to fit a mover, front in, back in, side in any way in with a mover. When we return home after a holiday, as we have a very small driveway, we find it ideal to put it on there nose first as well, it also makes it that bit harder to pinch.Brian


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:17 am
by hob (deleted)
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I have been to 20 sites in the last 3 years, 3 were eriba rallies so don't really count
Of the other 17 only one advised me to pitch nose in and he was an ex eriba owner who suggested I do that to get a better view from the front windows, as the pitch was on one side of a big circle of grass it was not a problem to drive on to the pitch unhook and carry on to move the car to the side of the van.
The other 16 didn't show any interest in what side the door was.
If available a pitch at the left hand of a row avoids problems .......... but you may end up facing a hedge or similar.
As for spacing between vans it should not pose a problem as an eriba is not the same size as most wobble boxes and in most cases not as wide...........when towing I know that if my extended wing mirrors will fit in a gap the eriba will do the same with room to spare

Another concern about "nose in" is not being able to hook up and move it quickly if you need to.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:21 am
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #20
I have to agree with Julie, that caravanning on the Continent with a continental van is much simpler and far more enjoyable.
Too much of a generalisation, old fruit. Way too much.

With one exception* we've never been subject to a nose in rule at any of the sites we've stayed at.

We don't do 'proper' Caravan Club sites because we don't care to be Organised to that extent, much preferring the smaller and mostly out of the way places that don't have a platoon of officious goons in corporate fleeces tooling round in golf buggies or furiously re-mowing the same patch of quarter-inch long grass with a toy tractor.

Almost without exception we've simply rocked up and been asked to pitch 'over there somewhere' with a casual and friendly wave of the hand.

Simple and enjoyable.

You pays your money and you takes your choice. If you stay on Caravan Club sites, you abide by their rules. If you show up at the Centre Court Royal Box wearing a floral shirt and a silly hat and get told to bugger off because you aren't abiding by the dress code, whose fault is it?

Having said that, rules are fine as long as they are applied consistently - which they clearly are not - and that the paying customer (without whom the Caravan Club would not exist) understands the rationale behind the rule in the first place.

*This exception was the site of the meet at Stratford, but then the site at Stratford is not the kind of place we would routinely choose to stay at anyway.

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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:32 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #23
Too much of a generalisation, old fruit. Way too much.
OK, in my experience, caravanning in France is more enjoyable than in the UK. The site fees are lower and we don't get the impression that we are constantly being ripped-off; the weather in the areas that we visit in June and September is much better than in the UK and you meet a better quality migrant. So there.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:36 am
by Poptop320 | 2.631 Posts

I am just at Barnard Castle CC, the site is quite new so all the pitches are large and they will accommodate an awning, there are no issues at this site for nose in or out policies. I have got a feeling the older sites were probably built without the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960 in mind which is now causing pitching etiquette confusion.

Nev is right that it could be an issue about having to get your van out in a hurry, especially Rowntree CC which regularly floods up to 4 feet deep when the river Ouse bursts it's banks. Or maybe your neighbours awning/van is on fire?


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:38 am
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #24
The site fees are lower and we don't get the impression that we are constantly being ripped-off...
That hair shirt is a poor fit on someone who swans around in a swanky convertible, elbow out, Ray-Bans on, posh tousle-haired blonde in the passenger seat...

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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:26 pm
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Can I ask a couple of questions?

Why is having doors facing each other such an issue anyway?

Do people stand naked in their doorways or something?

Don't caravans have windows on both sides through which you can see its occupants in any case, should you choose to look?

If you want the level of privacy some seem to crave, wouldn't you be better off staying in a hotel rather than in a box with windows in a field surrounded by lots of other boxes with windows?

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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:01 pm
by hob (deleted)
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Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #27
Can I ask a couple of questions?


No

Quote: Pepé Le Pew wrote in post #27

Do people stand naked in their doorways or something?


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:13 pm
by ellen (deleted)
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I think that anyone who opens their van door and looks at our Doo-Dah first thing in the morning is a very lucky camper. . Just my humble opinion of course. Ellen


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:42 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: ellen wrote in post #29
I think that anyone who opens their van door and looks at our Doo-Dah first thing in the morning is a very lucky camper.
Well, you said it, Ellen!


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