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Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:22 pm
by Morphy | 973 Posts

Hiya all just returned from Ashbourne caravan site another CCC site where the van has to be parked front in door has to be on the right side.
There was a Puck there and then another Troll arrived nice site a bit short on facilities.

I ma on EE and had no mobile overage at all 4g or otherwise.
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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:42 pm
by victoriana (deleted)
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Bloody silly all this front in stuff. Makes me wonder if I will be able to do this. When I find the right puck for me.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:40 am
by EllieMay (deleted)
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That's confusing. So you have to drive it in forward so your car is in front of it? That's a bit awkward getting your car out again!!


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:53 am
by Agger (deleted)
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Quote: EllieMay wrote in post #3
That's confusing. So you have to drive it in forward so your car is in front of it? That's a bit awkward getting your car out again!!





And it's not always possiible to drive in!! Often there will be a raised section to hold the "hardstanding" often when the CC site insist on nose in they have no interest in your problem of getting it that way! I have stated before a "slip, trip or fall" on wet grass with a slight run off could cause catastrophic results as the van runs away unbraked! A very long time ago I witnessed something like this at a very popular site, it was only averted due to a quick thinker who ran after! and forced the back to swing round, forcing the van sideways and to a halt!!

They don't care about "your" heart, breathing, arthritic, old age problems, you just have to nose in! I have done it myself BUT always emailed the club straightaway once we were on site. I have letters which I've posted on here to back up what I said.

EVERYONE!! needs to complain, individually, that is as I've said before "if they care"


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:57 am
by Poptop320 | 2.634 Posts

Quote: EllieMay wrote in post #3
That's confusing. So you have to drive it in forward so your car is in front of it? That's a bit awkward getting your car out again!!



Unfortunately Elliemay, it means that you have to unhitch your van and push your van into position. If you have a motor mover it's not too bad. However it still makes it awkward when departing as you have to move the van into position which will mean moving the car out of the way on a tight pitch.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:23 am
by Morphy | 973 Posts

Yes that is correct you are expected to shove the van into place I now have motor mover feels like cheating a bit but it makes life a lot easier and no stress at all when arriving home or on site. The other Troll that arrived on site after us also had a motor mover fitted so no problem for them either. There are some pitches where you can drive onto the pitch either side so again no problem but there are not many of these.

Also when storing at home on the drive with the motor mover fitted you can put the caravan facing towards the house it also makes theft of the Troll a lot more difficult. The motor mover covers are working fine and keeping all the rubbish off the rollers. I have now drove home with the Troll a couple of times in the rain and the covers are keeping them dry no problem so far. Pair of water proofs cheap and cheer full performing well.
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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:24 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

All the foregoing is true but the reason they want Continental vans nose in in the UK is to ensure that access doors/awnings are not opposite each other thereby maintaining some privacy on site. I think the majority would consider it to be good manners as no one wants to cause unnecessary offence to the neighbours.

I remember posting on another forum in 2012 that we were annoyed and inconvenienced on a site near Toulon. We had pitched nose out in common with all the other continental vans when a UK registered RHD motorhome reversed onto the adjoining pitch and parked with their door directly opposite ours. Nothing was preventing them driving nose into the pitch other than a lack of consideration or awareness. Unfortunately they were a particularly rowdy group and the reason we only stayed for one night.

I seem to recall others posting about similar experiences.

With a mover it makes no difference which way in you are required to pitch but without help from other campers, manoeuvring even a small caravan like an Eriba into place manually can be impossible without the risk of serious injury.

But, if you will buy a caravan with the door on the wrong side...........................


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:30 am
by hob (deleted)
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The answer is simple for me............I voted with my feet and refused to join the caravan club for as long as their wardens refuse to obey their corporate decision on caravan orientation.
Fortunately they are not the only ones hiring out pitches.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:02 pm
by Julie Grafo | 3.564 Posts

This is one of the reasons we much prefer caravanning n the continent. They don't care how you pitch, nose in, nose out, sideways. I suspect if you were daft enough to pitch your van upside down they wouldn't care. Much more relaxed. I do understand the privacy issues but given the fire break gap you are hardly in your neighbours face. In the end we are caravanning, you wouldn't want to be that close in a house but you are supposed to be on holiday. Never been forced to go nose in but if we are ever asked they better be prepared to give a helping hand (we don't have a mover). Failing that, it won't happen.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:04 pm
by Poptop320 | 2.634 Posts

The Carvan Club have a very confusing policy, in the CC magazine August 2014 page 11 it said that you can pitch nose in or nose out.
However certain sites don't seem to adhere to this policy and insist you go nose in if you have a continental van. Predominantly using the nose in rule for a fire break between the units or ancillary equipment.
I presume they are imposing the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960

Every unit should be not less than 6 metres from any other unit in separate family occupation and not less than 3 metres should be permitted between units in any circumstances.

Vehicles and other ancillary equipment should be permitted within the 6 metres space between units in separate family occupation but, in order to restrict the spread of fire, there should always be 3 metres clear space within the 6 metres separation.

Either way it's as clear as mud, Rowntree CC in York is very tight and awning to awning for most wobbly white boxes with big outfits would be close so I can see the need for the fire break rule, however they should stop sending out mixed messages......


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in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:12 pm
by Agger (deleted)
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Agree with Poptop320 why not list the sites where you have to nose in? I expect that does'nt fit the criteria of a multi degree holder with a company car

As I've said before about proximity and tge applied rules!! I have to sit on the same shixxxr, wee in the same urinal, shower in the same shower, god forbid I should see my neighbour! What a calamity that would be!! I always like to mix with others and chat to share experiences etc


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:18 pm
by hob (deleted)
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To narrow it right down to basics.........any organization that expects me to manhandle a ton of caravan on my own at my age will be sadly disappointed and even more so if they expect me to pay to do it.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:55 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

There are of course two sides to every argument but I still hold that it is a question of basic courtesy and good manners not to park door to door if it can be avoided.

You might consider yourself to be the boon companion, life-and-soul-of-the-party type that everyone should be delighted to meet but the other person might disagree, value his privacy and think you're a pain in the backside.

I suppose it's different at one-make rallies where people go with the express intention of socialising with each other but on regular camp sites where some people are looking for peace and quiet, a little tact and discretion is called for.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:12 pm
by hob (deleted)
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I don't disagree with that, what I don't like is when the corporate business management .........and in most ways it is a business rather than a club in the way we would think of one...... persist in saying there is no rule and some of its employees then enforce a rule the management says does not exist............that is annoying.

If it were a club rule then fair enough rules are there to be kept ..........but the situation at the moment is pot luck when you turn up at a site not knowing if you will be turned away after booking and travelling there simply because you are not physically capable of turning a 1 ton caravan through 180 degrees single handed.

That is a position that I find unacceptable, and needs to be put right.


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RE: Ashbourne: another site van to be parked the correct way.

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:21 pm
by victoriana (deleted)
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I whole heartily agree with hob.
I too could not do it and we should not have to if not in the rules


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