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1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:14 pm
by pleemee (deleted)
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I just bought this little jewel and I don't know where the battery and propane tak are supposed to be, it doesn't have any. Are there any photos of where they should be?
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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:51 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

First of all welcome to the forum.

Someone who knows about older Eribas is sure to be along shortly to correct me where I'm wrong, but apparently early Pucks came either with or without a gas locker mounted on the front of the caravan above the draw bar.

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I'd assume that if you have a gas locker then the bottle lives in there permanently but if you don't have one, then the bottle must travel either inside the caravan or in your tow car and be connected and stood on the ground alongside the draw bar when on site, as in the second picture above.

So far as I'm aware, not all Eribas (those built to Continental European specification) were equipped with leisure batteries and chargers as European mainland caravanners tend to use sites with electrical hook ups while in the UK, some more hardy souls like to camp 'off grid' on sites with minimal facilities relying on a leisure battery for their lighting and tap (faucet) operation.

I'm assuming that if you have no leisure battery installed, your Puck will have a mains electrical hook-up with a fuse box and 12V DC transformer somewhere near it under the seats?

It may look something like this (although my caravan was built more than 30 years after yours and things do change):

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I hope this helps. We'd love to see some pictures of your new acquisition, by the way.


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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:55 pm
by campnsnooze (deleted)
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Hi and
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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:41 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

I believe that there is, or was no requirement in the USA to have a separate Propane tank 'container' and that exposed gas bottles outside the trailer (with no covers) is acceptable. I think that early Pucks had a storage and connection for gas under the sink unit in a cupboard ? or as previously mentioned, an external gas bottle ? Also there may not be any 12 volt, just a mains input ?

I may be wrong with these assumptions - somebody please correct me if I'm wrong .


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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:06 pm
by Frantone (deleted)
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I bet you are right about the gas bottles Martin. Airstreams have external gas bottles at the front. They are often painted silver grey to blend in with the aluminium look.
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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:34 pm
by hampshireman (deleted)
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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:08 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: Ribski wrote in post #4
I believe that there is, or was no requirement in the USA to have a separate Propane tank 'container' and that exposed gas bottles outside the trailer (with no covers) is acceptable. I think that early Pucks had a storage and connection for gas under the sink unit in a cupboard ? or as previously mentioned, an external gas bottle ? Also there may not be any 12 volt, just a mains input ?

I may be wrong with these assumptions - somebody please correct me if I'm wrong .
I think that all the pictures of Pucks that I found without gas lockers when I Googled '1970 Puck' came from sites in the USA, Martin, so I reckon you may well be right.


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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:14 pm
by pleemee (deleted)
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I found the hook up for the battery under the rear seat on the drivers side. No battery so I will have to guess as to the size. Any help in the US size. Everything is so different. My brother says 12 volt and that they cost about $200. Oh my. I noticed you called it a "leisure" battery?


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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:28 pm
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: pleemee wrote in post #8
Any help in the US size.
A car battery would be probably be fine, and car batteries for the US market are the same physical size as for everywhere else.

If by size you mean capacity - i.e. amp hours (ah), it'd be helpful if you could give us a rough idea of what you intend to run off the battery then we might be able help out with what you might want to be looking for.

Two hundred bucks for a regular battery sounds like an awful lot, though if it's a sealed, spillproof and maintenance-free battery like an AGM (absorbed glass mat) as fitted to lots of new cars from the factory it's probably nearer the mark.

What it's going to cost depends on what you intend to use it for. It may well be that a Wal-Mart $29.99 special will do the job.

Incidentally, while what we call leisure batteries over here might be of slightly different internal construction, the cases will be in broadly the same range of sizes as the car equivalents.

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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:34 pm
by hob (deleted)
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My 89 puck had 2 12v lights and a 12v water pump, if that's what you have most 12 volt batteries should do, a sealed unit would be best to avoid spills while towing
You will also need a 12 volt charger.


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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:37 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

Don't forget that 'an internal' fitted battery needs to be vented to outside the van to release any hydrogen gas which might be released during charging - unless it is the much more expensive Gel or AGM type - or so we are led to believe ! !


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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:39 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Any chance of some pictures, Pat?

The electrics will be 12V. This thread Batteries should be of interest.

In the UK we use the term 'leisure battery' to differentiate between the type of battery used in a caravan to power lights, faucets etc and the type of battery used to start a car engine. They deliver their power differently but to all intents and purposes, you can safely use a car battery in your Puck and don't need to spend silly amounts of money on something designed for an Airstream or a Winnebago.

In a caravan with a motor mover, a powerful battery is necessary together with a charger to keep it topped-up. In your case, power consumption will be low so there's no need for specialised equipment.


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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:04 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

On the subject of battery chargers, if you are going away for an extended period you will need a charger to top-up your battery so you can continue to use your lights etc. (I think hob mentioned this.)

Modern UK specification Eribas come with a leisure battery and a built-in charger that automatically keeps the battery topped up but on my first holiday in France I found out that my built-in charger had failed. Our forum's electronics consultant advised me to buy a car battery charger and to use it via my caravan mains power sockets to charge the battery.

This worked perfectly and would be a simple, low-cost solution for you


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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:50 am
by pleemee (deleted)
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All I need to power are the two lights in it. nothing else. No water pump. So Walmart here I come..I have a 12 v charger that you plug into an electrical outlet. Is that what you mean? My grandson works at an ATV farm equipment repair sales and he said he can get me new tires and a wheel for a spare. So exciting. Thanks for all your help. I will go take a picture of the spot for the battery. And add it to my folder "Pats Puck pics".
Again thank you all so very much...


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RE: 1970 Puck Battery and propane tank

in Improving your pride and joy and how to fix things Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:18 am
by pleemee (deleted)
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