Can anyone advise please?

On our new Troll, both the white and red bulb housings (to the left and right of the rear number plate respectively) are very loose - the slightest tap/twist and they appear to want to hang on their wires. The thing is, they've not been knocked and don't seem damaged - so is this how they're meant to be?

Also - whilst we're on about bulb-related - if I wanted a spare set of bulbs, are these best bought from the dealer (AL) or will a generic set (Maypole?) do the job?

Are we talking about the fog and reversing lights? Arrowed on my 2006 model


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If so they are required to be swapped over for selling in the UK as we drive on the other side of the road.

As I understand things yours is brand new? if so maybe the dealer swapped them over and didn't do them up properly?

Mine are held in by 2 screws (yours may be different)


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Absolutely right Pete!
I have a long list of all the faults or shoddy assembly on our 2013 Troll.
They range from quite major problems that were apparent quickly such as the bathroom door closure issues, splitting woodwork, bent roof, faulty gas locker locks, wrong 12v isolation switch etc and many minor items like screw covers missing, cracked light covers, badly fitted trim.
Even now, yesterday, I have discovered some of the 12v wiring hanging in a loop across a window having fallen through the gap between the cabinetry and the blind cassette.

Still love it though!
TonyP

Hi - thanks for this.

Our Troll's rear bumper is less streamlined than Hob's 2006 model & the light fittings appear different. There's no apparent way to secure either of them in place (they're the same design apart from housing/bulb colour).

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The two long stems which look like they should take a screw seem to have no purpose. They're blocked at the light-fitting end & looking from the rear, there's no where to screw anything in (or for that matter, from the sides).

I've taken a couple more and will post in just a minute - don't seem to be able to add more to this post.

Just checked my 2015 430. To answer the question about loose bulb housing. Both the white (reversing light) and the red (fog light) housing are held in place by a spring clip and to change a bulb you remove the complete unit. So yes they are loose and your can turn it 360 degrees - but don't do it as the already messy lighting wire work behind them will get even more tangled! My Instruction Manual says to remove the lamp, and I quote ' Press the lamp downwards against the resistance of the spring and simultaneously pull the upper edge backwards'. I've just done that and I must say that at the end of each journey I will check that the lights haven't fallen out!! Not too impressed with the system.

Ok the plastic tubes arrowed suggest to me that there should be screws in them that hold them in place. look inside to see if there are any holes that line up with them? looks to me the screws are missing,

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That's what I thought - so I've nipped out to take some more pics/check for what you/we're both thinking, but:

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it doesn't appear to be the case (head-scratching icon required here)...

PooleDweller - you've confirmed my (worst!) fears - the system's flawed :(

I just can't believe how seriously loose the housings are.

hob - perhaps there were screw holes originally and they just kept the same bulb housings but "lost" the screwability to save money?

I am wrong there is no holes on the outside of the housings for screws to go through.

No problem - much appreciate the suggestions :)

Given the system's failings, & not wishing to use tape over the lights for obvious reasons, maybe there's at least a partial solution to not having the housings "pop out" when going over a bump/pothole?

I'm tempted to wind some masking tape around the "male" part as it were so that it's more of a snug fit.

Other thoughts?

Very true - thanks.

This is a bit difficult to describe but I'll have a go. If you look at the crude 'hold the light in place' fixing there is a spring clip at the bottom of the housing and two 'V' slots at the top. So by pushing the light in and then down a little it can be pulled from the top the light is removed from the c'van. So the combination of a couple of 'V' slots and a spring clip hold the light in place. Now the problem with this is that if the clip on the bottom of the housing is not man enough to hold the light in place vibration may cause the light to drop - maybe only a few millimeters, causing the 'V' bit of the light housing to clear the hole through which the light is mounted. Now if the lights were installed 'upside down' with the spring at the top, the downward movement of the light under vibration would be halted and hopefully the light would remain in place. Of course I'm assuming vibration would cause the light to drop but what happens if vibration causes the light to go up! So should the lights be installed as they are or turned 180 degrees, your choice, and what happens in the future when the metal clip breaks - will replacement lights be available. So, yes I think this must be one of many cost cutting moves by Hymer - cheaper lights, less screws, more profit and progress?

Finally, thank god I hear. One of my lights was looser than the other so I decreased (bent) the spring clip fractionally - the light is now a little tighter.