Fixed bed or not?
I think we have now decided on a 530 and the question is fixed bed or not?
Initially we were going to order a 430 which due to the small front dinette we were definitely going to go for the rear seating rather than fixed bed, although on the 530 the front seating area is a much better size.
We originally thought that the extra seating area would give greater flexibility but after looking at one today, it appears the seats slide over some metal rails to create the bed. Whereas if we go fixed bed, it would be a sprung base and a proper mattress.
Has anyone got any experience using both of these and which is more comfortable? Also if we ever go to resell wonder which option would be best?
RE: Fixed bed or not?
in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:33 pmby Bigmandiddyvan (deleted)
We have a troll 550gt with a rear fixed bed, you lose out on lounge space but gain on storage, the beds nice because it is all ready made up for you at night, we use a bologna awning for lounging in but if you don't take an awning with you it might be worth having more lounge space in the van without the convenience of a permanent bed. I'm afraid it's horses for courses. Take your pick. Brian.
RE: Fixed bed or not?
in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:50 pmby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
We prefer the option of either leaving the bed made up - as we do when we have the awning erected - or having the lounge area available when we don't.
We use a couple of Duvalays so bed-making is not an issue. When staying for a couple of nights without awning, we simply leave one side of the lounge in bed mode with both Duvalays laid on top, fit the table and use one side of the seating. Converting back to a double bed takes seconds.
I think fixed beds only make sense in larger caravans, but that's just my opinion. Others will disagree.
I'd go for flexibility every time.
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RE: Fixed bed or not?
in Anything Eriba-related Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:31 pmby eribaMotters • | 5.590 Posts
Jamie,
two dining/seating areas will always be more saleable, so your eriba would sell on in 2 weeks instead of 4 weeks, so I would not worry and buy what is best for you.
We have owned 3 eriba, one with a permanent fixed bed. This was a very comfortable bed, but I'm not sure if was any more so than the twin diner versions we have owned that we used in a permanent fixed bed set-up.
I would also not worry about sprung or foam. I have experienced both, and again no real difference. I would however prefer sprung on the front seating.
What you may not have considered is the height of fixed bed models is higher and as such easier to get in/out of, althought you may have to climb across your partner.
Colin
eribaless at present, 4th eriba, a 2017 430 on order.
RE: Fixed bed or not?
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:32 amby Islay Corbel (deleted)
We have a Triton and like the option of bed or dinette. The previous owners had installed a permanent bed but, as you say, the front dinette is small. We like to spread out over dinner.
RE: Fixed bed or not?
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:48 amby rambling robin (deleted)
As part of the order of our 410 we decided to have the beds uprated to sprung - which also included the option of the bed bases being the conventional legged slide-out as seen in most modern vans, rather than the pivoty metal things. Also we both hate sleeping on foam because of the way it pushes heat back at you.
Since it has no bathroom the 410 - which we think of as a Mega-Puck - provides a more open living space which means you get the choice of leaving the beds made up or not without feeling cramped. You do lose the big underbed space of the fixed beds, but it does seem a bit more flexible.
As Aaron said, with an awning as well you can just make and forget! There are a couple of Practical Caravan Eriba reviews on YouTube, I recall one of them featured a fixed bed - may help you decide???
Lonely Kia Sportage waiting for a push
Colin mentioned the climbing across your partner.....
In most cross way layouts the exit from the bed is between the fridge and wardrobe which means that crossing your partner is across the chest or stomach area, it's not just a simple job of slipping across legs or feet!
Some may like the intimacy, some may need crampons, some may not even notice but for many it is not a comfortable exit 'cos of the restriction of the furniture. 😄
It's very important to try it out before committing to buy and not just by laying on it!
Troll gently nudging up against Galaxy.
Quote: Frantone wrote in post #7
In most cross way layouts the exit from the bed is between the fridge and wardrobe which means that crossing your partner is across the chest or stomach area, it's not just a simple job of slipping across legs or feet!
Some may like the intimacy, some may need crampons, some may not even notice but for many it is not a comfortable exit 'cos of the restriction of the furniture. 😄
Excellent point and the reason why we have now sold our Triton 430 and have purchased instead the Troll 542 which, for the most part, still retains the intimacy of having a double bed with comfy mattress whilst allowing for an easy exit without all this climbing across one another for the odd small room visits.
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RE: Fixed bed or not?
in Anything Eriba-related Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:54 amby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
Another consideration is whether you can comfortably sleep across the caravan. Being tall, I need a longitudinal bed and that limits the choice of models.
Our 420 is ideal for our needs but if I were changing, I'd more than likely go for a Troll with longitudinal beds and end dinette (540?)
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We have a fixed bed 530 and have had fixed bed 550s and a non-fixed 540.
You do gain a huge contiguous usable under-bed storage area wth the fixed bed compared to the benches, but lose flexibility if you want to seat more than 4 around a table. The front dinette in the 530 is much larger and more user-friendly than that in the 540, and you can seat four round the table at a push, but probably not for eating.
The 530 with either fixed or benches also allows two adults to have large beds separately provided sleeping across the caravan is acceptable, and I think the modern vans are a bit wider than the older ones.
For me it's a trade off between storage and sleeping/seating flexibility.
Your answer will probably only come after a few outings and how you use the van and what ends up being a priority for the next one you buy!
Hi, we've just bought a 530 with dinette. We previously had an adria caravan and used a mattress topper to be ultra comfy. The 530 has a slatted base and I've found it really comfy and its massive! You're welcome to come take a look at ours if you're anywhere near!
Fiona
Thanks for all the comments. We've ultimately decided on a 430 due to towing weights on my car. We've also decided on fixed bed as in reality we will probably never want to make up the rear dinette each day. The thought of a proper slatted base and mattress also appeals.
The other point is the underbed storage will be much bigger for an awning. We're off to pay the deposit on Sunday and delivery is due around March.
Congrats but a word of warning. The Eriba Touring range of vans have a maximum hitch (nose) limit of 100kg and Hymer recommend loading the van so that this limit, or as close to it as possible, thereby ensuring as much towing stability as possible. If the cars towbar limit is less than this then of course that figure should serve as the maximum.
However, experience has shown, certainly with our 430 and judging from what a lot of other forum members have to say, achieving 100kg on the hitch is almost next to impossible. The pointy front end of the van is a Hymer feature they say and this long front end assists in good towing stability. In the past we have carried 2 full gas bottles in the front along with a few other bits and bobs and still can't achieve 100kg or anywhere near it. That said though, in my opinion you will be doing yourself no favours by compounding the issue with putting the awning at the rear of the van which will make the hitch end even lighter. We always carried ours laying on non-slip matting in the middle of the van and over the axle tending towards the front just a touch.
Other than that, here's wishing you many happy years of Eriba touring.
RE: Fixed bed or not?
in Anything Eriba-related Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:36 pmby eribaMotters • | 5.590 Posts
I must agree on the loading of the van. I have owned a 430, 552 and 310. In all I have carried the awning either in the car or towards the front of the van on the floor.
I have adjusted loading to give different noseweights, but on all three vans found the best tow has been found at around 50/55kg. This is with a VW Touran, max noseweight 75kg, and a Skoda Yeti, max noseweight 80kg.
Colin
eribaless at present, 4th eriba, a 2017 430 on order.
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