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RE: New resolution, never mind the date

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:29 pm
by Randa france | 13.283 Posts

I think I mentioned on here a few months ago that there should be some technology available that can knock the signal out when driving. John, Poptop 320, who is in the industry, suggested that there was, but it would be impossible to use it.

I too was distressed when I saw the footage of the horrific accident caused by a Polish lorry driver using his mobile to select a music play list. Furthermore, most modern cars, ours included, can store and play all the music we own and because in our case, the play list shows up on our integral dashboard mounted radio/sat nav. screen, it's a disaster waiting to happen. I don't touch it, I hasten to add. I can switch the radio or music player on with a button on the steering wheel and I accept what it gives me. My co-pilot is the soul user of the play list screen.

I also think that sat navs wherever they are mounted in the vehicle, can be a hazard. Sometimes we can't believe our eyes when we see sat nav screens stuck on the windscreen of the car, right in front of the driver's forward vision.

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RE: New resolution, never mind the date

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:51 pm
by Ribski | 1.468 Posts

Yes, Yes and yes again ! How I agree - a car is not an office, a snack bar, or an entertainment centre - driving requires 100% concentration. You can fine drivers as much as you like for "speeding" - speed is not alone in causing accidents,by any means - its the fools who are concentrating on anything other than 'driving' There can be NO circumstance where a 'phone call or text' etc. should be allowed to take precedence over the 'driving'.As you said a jamming system should be installed in ALL cars, not systems to encourage the use of 'phones, entertainment etc ! It would, of course, be impossible to retro- fit to all cars and lorries, but use of 'phones,entertainment, drinking etc. should not be encouraged in future 'new' vehicles ! In the mean time CONCENTRATE ON THE DRIVING AND ROAD AHEAD AND NOTHING ELSE - TO BE SAFE !


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RE: New resolution, never mind the date

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:09 pm
by eribanaut | 1.228 Posts

British motorists seem to think they have a right to speed, if you don't want to pay a fine, don't break the posted speed limits, they aren't there to make money it's to save OUR lives


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RE: New resolution, never mind the date

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:28 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

I consider speeding fines to be a form of taxation so I do my damndest to stay within the limit at all times. It's cheaper that way, but when I do stick to 30 and 40 mph limits in built-up areas I more often than not have some inconsiderate ar****le tailgating me and trying to bully me into driving faster. It is both intimidating and dangerous.

My point about speeding fines being imposed automatically courtesy of cameras was that they take no consideration of the circumstances. While it would be lunacy to drive at 30mph in a busy area in poor visibility when kids are leaving school, at 2 a.m 40 mph might be perfectly safe on the same stretch of road.

Speed is only one factor in road traffic accidents but unlike driving without due care and attention it is easy to monitor with technology and consequently receives a disproportionate emphasis by plod and local authorities.

When is the last time anyone saw a police patrol car on a motorway monitoring driver behaviour i.e. doing something useful?


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RE: New resolution, never mind the date

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:48 pm
by Randa france | 13.283 Posts

You are right up to a point. I think I've used this example before but about 6 years ago,our youngest son, travelling back to South Wales from Bath University at 3:00am was "clocked" doing 65mph in a 50mph temporary roadwork area on an empty three lane motorway.

The fine was bad enough but he had to suffer a huge increase in his already extortionate insurance premium for the following four years.

Regarding policing the motorways I think the Police use stealth vehicles now so don't ever try and race that Beamer that's following you.

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RE: New resolution, never mind the date

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:57 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: Randa france wrote in post #20
don't ever try and race that Beamer that's following you.
No chance. It might be Agger.


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RE: New resolution, never mind the date

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:03 am
by Deeps (deleted)
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Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #19

My point about speeding fines being imposed automatically courtesy of cameras was that they take no consideration of the circumstances. While it would be lunacy to drive at 30mph in a busy area in poor visibility when kids are leaving school, at 2 a.m 40 mph might be perfectly safe on the same stretch of road.




Can't fault you on that one but there again, why should they? You might consider 40mph to be a safe speed under the circumstances that you mention but Joe Bloggs who comes along a few minutes later might consider 50mph to be a safe speed. So whose right? In my opinion neither because once we let drivers decide what speed is safe and what signs and regulations apply to others but not themselves, then the situation becomes a free for all.

If, in absolutely essential circumstances e.g. your passenger has suffered a heart attack and you're attempting to get to the hospital in the shortest possible time, then of course I feel sure that with suitable evidence later being submitted you could probably successfully appeal the fine or whatever. However, you can count on one hand the number of times where mitigating circumstances could be submitted, whilst in the vast majority of cases it's drivers themselves choosing which laws/regulations should be obeyed and/or which apply only to others.


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RE: New resolution, never mind the date

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:46 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Quote: Deeps wrote in post #22
once we let drivers decide what speed is safe and what signs and regulations apply to others but not themselves, then the situation becomes a free for all.
Like on German Autobahnen?


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RE: New resolution, never mind the date

in Anything that's not Eriba-related. Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:48 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #23
Like on German Autobahnen?


Yes exactly.


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