Quote: eribaMotters wrote in post #1

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I know last years models were spring loaded, a nice idea, but if you leant on it it could collapse.
Mine is not like this. When you lift up the flap you have to guide the metalwork arm into place underneath.

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Our 2013 Troll has this........
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Our 2014 Troll had no spring.

Our 1997 Triton has a folding arm

So where did the 'spring loaded type' that you alluded too in your original post come from, Colin? From the responses is appears that the type shown in the photo above is the standard fit.

I have no wish to be unkind or critical, but if the fitting shown in that photo is Hymer's standard fitting then they are in serious trouble.
It is fairly obvious that the original hinge fittings are some sort of spring loaded affair - kitchen cupboard type - which are not up to taking any load.
It looks as though someone has then fitted a shed door hinge and routed out the base of the worktop, chiselled a slot for the end of the hinge and screwed in a bit of webbing.

The whole design is just plain wrong. The main work top should overhang by about 2cm, with the flip up section supported on a piano hinge with a sprung load pair of hinges underneath. Our MH had 2 spring loaded supports which flip up to engage in 2 lugs underneath the work top and require manual deliberate action to disengage.

I cannot imagine for one moment that the pictured arrangement would pass German approval for any kind of fitting - Perhaps it's an AL 'adjustment' ?

Quote: rambling robin wrote in post #9

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I cannot imagine for one moment that the pictured arrangement would pass German approval for any kind of fitting - Perhaps it's an AL 'adjustment' ?

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I must admit I was having trouble getting my head around what was happening in that picture

So I downloaded it and rotated it by 90 deg

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Now I can see the arrangement, the long (what I would call rabbit hut hinge ) is what holds it up with the end fitting into a notch.

A strange arrangement, my 2006 has a rather fragile looking plastic bracket that swings out to hold the flap up, I rarely use it mainly because now i leave the bed made up its directly above my head at night.

It's a bodge - I was just trying to be nice. For a van costing this much Hymer really are extracting the michael.
OK I know it's quaint and retro etc etc but that is just not on.
Hoping for word that our new 410 ordered in May is finally going to arrive on these shores sometime soon. Then we'll see what they've done.
One thing for sure I'm not falling for the 'lets sort out the money and then go and inspect the van' routine. No likeeee, no payeeee!!!!