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Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:22 am
by Markeriba | 150 Posts

Just looking for some feedback from members regarding Thule awnings for a new Troll 540. I've spoken to John Rose at Rose awnings, who advises that the Thule 4900 and 6200 both fit the Troll 540, and both can be in anodised finish. They can fit the awning at AL prior to me picking up the van.

The relevant points seem to be as follows:-

4900
Mounted on the awning rail. No drilling into van. Can be 3.55M in width. Quite a bit cheaper than the 6200

6200
Mounted on the roof, above the awning rail. No drilling into the van. Can be 3.00M in width. The awning is more expensive, as is the mounting adapter. There is space for an LED lighting strip if required.

I notice on the forum that there seems to be a mixture of the two awnings, and would appreciate any feedback or views on which awning to get.

Look forward to any replies.

Cheers Mark


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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:42 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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I think you'll find that the roof mounted awning supplied by Hymer for the Troll 540 is the Thule 6200, is 3.25m length, comes with the needed Adapter for roof fitting with the LED lights built in as standard. Cost approx 1150€ + fitting charge.


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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:58 pm
by Markeriba | 150 Posts

I see that Thule do a 3.25M awning, but on the Rose Awnings website, they only seem to do a 3.00M adapter specific for the Eriba. John did say that the 540 would only take a 3.00M awning, so I wonder if a factory fit Hymer Thule awning comes with a specific 3.25M adapter.

Obviously I'd like as wide an awning as possible, which is why I'm erring towards the 4900. On the other hand the 6200 would presumably allow a full awning to be used if necessary, which the 4900 wouldn't.

I will speak to John at Rose Awnings again.

Cheers Mark


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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:59 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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Strange - the Hymer website states 3.25m for the Troll and 2.8m for the Triton with both being available ONLY as dealer afterfit.
. https://www.hymer-original-zubehör....ber=8501287&c=7



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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:49 pm
by Markeriba | 150 Posts

I've now spoken to AL and Rose Awnings, and it seems that the 3.25M 6200 awning can only be ordered through Hymer as a 'special'. The awning also comes with the LED lights fitted as standard, which means that you'd have a hole through the roof for cabling. The normal 6200 is glued to the roof so there are no fixings through the roof.

Cheers Mark


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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:07 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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The second paragraph of the link provided above states that the adapter to which the awning is later attached is glued to the roof.


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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:31 pm
by highmiler | 367 Posts

I have been looking at the Omnistore 6200 with interest, looking at the Hymer website picture with a side wall (part of the safari room option ) in place, it looks as though there is no return , where the side wall meets the caravan side, and there is quite a gap. Can anyone comment on this?
My old Soplair Ardeche awning does have a return so that you can get a good tight fit against the caravan side.
We made an arch front sun awning from a Coleman tent awning, as per Randa's diagrams of a couple of years ago.This is easy to put up and quite stable in the wind but the fabric is only rip-stop nylon and not quite heavy enough to give good shade in the european sun. Perhaps I shall investigate some heavier fabric.


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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:59 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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The Thule Residence G3 is what the OH and me shall probably be choosing should we decide on the 6200 route which seems highly likely at this time. Comes with additional strip to create a tight fit to the wall.



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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:26 pm
by highmiler | 367 Posts

Thanks Deeps for that info.


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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:48 pm
by eribanaut | 1.228 Posts

Did someone say heavier fabric?
https://www.esvocampingshop.com/en/tent-canvas/polyester/
they sell everything you need, canvas, thread, binding, brass eyelets and tool. Very fast service from Netherlands
Dave


Citroen C4 auto 1.6 Hdi Troll 552 - 2005


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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:38 pm
by KeithDM (deleted)
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When we ordered a new 540 in 2013, we arranged with John Rose for a 3.5m 4900 to be fitted, for which he sourced a length of contoured aluminium extrusion to bond to the roof. We also bought a Thule G2 Residence Room (small size), which John tailored to suit the height of the Troll and to match the sides of the caravan. AIUI, he can no longer source the extrusion and AFAIK, Thule/Omnistor no longer make the small size of the G2.

When erected, the G2 makes a spacious and very robust full awning. Oh, and John also tailored the awning draught skirt, creating a slot for the step and contoured to match the wheel arch. All in all, a brilliant job by John.

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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:55 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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Quote: KeithDM wrote in post #11
......AFAIK, Thule/Omnistor no longer make the small size of the G2. When erected, the G2 makes a spacious and very robust full awning.


Yes, it would certainly appear to be the case that not many things by way of awnings and the like are tailor made for our Eriba Touring models.

Since my last post I have been in contact directly with Thule in Sweden who have now advised me that (a) as you intimated, Keith, the G2 is no longer manufactured having been replaced by the slightly more modern, although larger, G3 and (b) the G3 is not suitable, being essentially far too large for the Eriba Touring range. Even with third party modification it is not recommended as there are far more construction pieces in the package adding considerable weight over and above the previous G2 version and so there is little to be gained over the traditional awning.

We've now opted for the Hymer (Thule) 6200 roof mounted awning with built in LED lighting (3.25m in length) although we are not having the lighting wired up. We are mulling over purchasing the Hymer left and right side pieces which, whilst they are certainly not going to provide much by way of protection, they make up for this by being quite cheap. One or both will only be fitted to give a bit of protection from any wind when felt necessary and taken down during wind-still conditions.


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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:25 pm
by KeithDM (deleted)
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Quote: Deeps wrote in post #12
Quote: KeithDM wrote in post #11
......AFAIK, Thule/Omnistor no longer make the small size of the G2. When erected, the G2 makes a spacious and very robust full awning.

We are mulling over purchasing the Hymer left and right side pieces which, whilst they are certainly not going to provide much by way of protection, they make up for this by being quite cheap. One or both will only be fitted to give a bit of protection from any wind when felt necessary and taken down during wind-still conditions.



When the full awning is not needed, or on shorts stays and we need a bit of shelter I have Windblocker Shades from Lillypad Leisure. Initially I just bought one side then later added a front. They custom-made them to suit sizewise. Oddly enough (as they are titled 'windblockers'), there have been a number of times when we have used them for shade, to reduce the power of the sun! (No, that was not in the UK...)



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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:20 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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Quote: Markeriba wrote in post #5
I've now spoken to AL and Rose Awnings, and it seems that the 3.25M 6200 awning can only be ordered through Hymer as a 'special'. The awning also comes with the LED lights fitted as standard, which means that you'd have a hole through the roof for cabling. The normal 6200 is glued to the roof so there are no fixings through the roof.




Well we went ahead and had the Eriba awning fitted to our Troll 542, which is in fact the Thule Omnistor 6200 (3.25m x 250cm) with integrated LED lighting, and although we are more than pleased with the awning itself, we are somewhat disappointed with the advice that we received prior to the actual ordering and fitting which essentially boils down to the salesperson not really being up to date with the product.

Even though the Hymer adapter has the integrated LED lighting strip we chose to have that fitted as opposed to the Thule standard as it had a more streamline shape with there being no danger of the awning overhang preventing the correct construction of our Walker awning should the occasion arise where we decide a more enclosed awning would be best. Clear instructions were given to the dealer that the wiring required for the LED lighting should be omitted as this would require a hole being drilled into the roof of the Troll through which the cable would pass. We were also advised that the awning would be attached to the roof of the Troll with adhesive (Silka something or other) and as the lighting aspect would not be required then no holes would need to be drilled into the Troll roof.

However, upon collection of the van early on Saturday morning we were just a little surprised to find an electrical junction box fitted into an overhead locker to the left of the door. The technician explained that this would allow any future owner the possibility of having the extra wiring required for switch and power should they so choose. When it was put to him that it was a specific requirement that no holes be drilled through the roof he went on to explain that all roof or side mounted awnings have holes drilled into the roof as part of the installation - adhesive alone would not suffice especially when one considers the weight involved. In short then, four holes were drilled into the roof during installation.

In summary then, and in the context of this subject thread, it really doesn't matter which model of roof mounted awning is chosen, integrated LED lighting or not, drilling into the roof for fixation will be required and is an integral part of the installation/mounting process. I would recommend that this be put to Rose Awnings because on the face of it information provided is either not 100% or to be kind, somewhat misleading. Drilling and screwing is the prime method of awning attachment, the adhesive serves as belt and braces as well as providing a seal around the edges of the awning so that rain doesn't run under the awning adapter and into the area around where one is sitting.



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RE: Thule Omnistor awning 4900 or 6200?

in Making the most of that expensive pitch Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:13 am
by bernardm (deleted)
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Sounds like you have been to Lowdhams, they wanted to fit a 3 meter awning to our triton. John Rose is an official Omnistore dealer and has been fitting these awnings for 30 years , The adhesive that is used is the same that is used to glue Airbus wings together .


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