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Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:47 am
by Nuddmann (deleted)
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Folks, I type this as we are on hols in France, that's how much it's annoyed me!

We've had our Puck for a couple of years and the only thing that we don't like is the fact that the rain gutter seems to be such a silly design that when we get anything approaching more than moderate drizzle the rain flows from the main, uppermost, channel of the guttering, through the drainage hole and then races along the bottom channel and overflows down the side of the Eriba, inside the awning. I've attached some pics

Is there a strip of any description that can be run along the inner or bottom channel of the rain guttering that will at least stop it from flowing along the side of the Eriba inside the awning?

I've searched the forum but the only posts that I can find relate to the awning rail and ourbawjing rail is NOT the source of the problem IMG_3192.JPG - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)IMG_3194.JPG - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)

Hope that makes sense


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:55 am
by Randa france | 13.264 Posts

Hi and welcome to Eribafolk. We've experienced the same thing once or twice and it is a bit frustrating.

I don't know if they help but many folk use cable ties in the top holes to deflect the rain away from the sides of the van :- g45p2572-IMG.html

We usually "slope" the van a little when levelling up so that the gutter low point is on the back far corner of the van.

Randa


ERIBAFOLK POP UP EVERYWHERE 1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:03 am
by Nuddmann (deleted)
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Very inventive!! 😀

I may have found a solution, I've just found a caravan accessories company selling 6mm awning beading. I'm wondering if I could feedlengths if it through the bottom portion of the rain channel where it is routed along the awning side of the Wriba? Don't know the dimensions of the channel though. At least that would allow the main pet if the gutter to do its job while blocking off the route for the rain to run around?


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:54 am
by eribaMotters | 5.592 Posts

How about a lump of bluetack or similar pushed into the track to stop the water running into the awning area?

Colin


Skoda Yeti diesel 2wd _ ex 430, 552, camplet trailer tent, 310, now a nice new white 430.
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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:24 pm
by thecolliss | 137 Posts

If you get on a ladder and look into you rain gutter you will see some sealant which should seal gutter to van.
Hymer don't do the best finishing job here, when they fit the gutter rail this sealant squeezes out and they could smooth it out...they leave it.
When the sealant squeezes out as a bead, water can sit behind this bead and run down the side of the van inside the gutter rail.
So remove this messy black stick sealant and gun in a small bead of silicon sealant, wet your finger and smooth it flat. Same as round your bath.
Removing the original sealant is not easy, doing this you are not touching the actual seal but just removing excess sealant.
Only a small bead of sealant is required and looks 100% better than Hymer's effort.
This will stop these drips down the van, I had the same problem.
I use Sikaflex - 221 (Ebay £10)


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:27 pm
by Nuddmann (deleted)
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It's not the black sealant between the rain channel and the body that's the issue. It's that rain is essentially overwhelming the gutter and then flowing along the second channel in the guttering; the channel that looks like an awning rail channel.

I'll buy some awning beading when we get home and see if that does the trick. I should hopefully be able to insert it where the guttering opens out and Hymer have drilled a hole to facilitate drainage. I can't actually see the point of the second, lower channel??!


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:29 pm
by hob (deleted)
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Quote: Nuddmann wrote in post #6

. I can't actually see the point of the second, lower channel??!


Is it a puck or a puck L ?


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:08 pm
by Nuddmann (deleted)
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It's a Puck L


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:25 pm
by hob (deleted)
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Zitat
It's a Puck L



In that case you will notice that the top of the door is in fact higher than the lower rail (a design flaw?) so a higher rail was added on the door side to allow for an awning \ sunshade to be fitted, the lower wrap round rail still had to be fitted as it forms the join between the top of the walls and the roof.

It is still useful for a sunshade on the other side of the van or fitting window shades,


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:05 pm
by Nuddmann (deleted)
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Ah..... that makes sense. In that case, I'm guessing that feeeing some awning beading into the channels either side of the door should mitigate most of the water travel. I'll give it a go when we get home. It's a bit of a pain because it kind of spoils the awning set up when you get water creeping round from each side!
Thanks for the help.


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:29 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.592 Posts

The short temporary length of awning cord will not give a good enough/the tight fit needed to stop water from entering. Please try the Blu Tack

Colin


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:38 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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In my opinion you're really on a hiding to nothing and whilst placing strips of awning cord or Blu Tack into the gutter either side might slow things down a bit, inevitably the water is going to seep along the rail and down into the awning. We suffered from this a lot during a recent trip and yes, it really is truly annoying.

The problem is essentially all to do with the design of the guttering/awning channel which, as a result of the van being a pop-top, differs altogether from a 'normal' caravan.

What really makes me laugh is that various awning manufacturers recommend the use of a plastic strip that essentially raises the height of the rain gutter. The logic behind this would be ok if the plastic strip encircled the roof completely but of course it doesn't with the length of the strip being slightly longer than the awning beading of a Triton and a couple of centimeters shorter for a Troll. One doesn't need to have a degree in science to understand that water will always equalize in level so the idea that the strip allows for a deeper build up of water behind it which then slowly tapers off where the strip ends is madness. When the amount of rain overwhelms the top rain channel the water level will be exactly the same both sides of the strip as well as behind it at which point it overflows and runs into the awning channel as you, I and others have discovered. The slight slope of the roof in that the top rain channel is set back a couple of millimeters or so from the beading channel doesn't help either.

We have become so frustrated with this that we are in the process of having a roof mounted awning fitted and restricting the use of the full awning only to very long stays at one campsite.


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:53 pm
by Nuddmann (deleted)
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Is blue tack something that you've had success with?


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:36 pm
by Nuddmann (deleted)
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Actually, another simple solution has occurred to me: there are loads of external sealants available, it would seem to be a simple matter to fill the parts of the rail that are on the awning side of the caravan with a decent external sealant. As we plan to keep it for the very long term there's no need to worry about removing it in the near future.


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RE: Rain channel-very irritating design flaw?!

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:53 pm
by Pop540 (deleted)
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Am not sure if understood your issue,
there used to be ( were talking before automotive leisure existed) main dealer with black and white striped building near to a lot of water Gloucester. On an Eriba troll 540 in show room, metal things that could fit under the downwards lip of rail on corner where water runs, the water then run down them away from corner of eriba,
is this what you want to happen with the water run off?
I remember thinking an issue was you could walk into them. being head height. they were metal possibly aluminium
Will try to draw it from memory. and take a picture to upload, it is many years ago Edit over 10 years, yikes.

DSC_1609.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)
made a foil prototype( note not to scale) on right of page the top hooks over the rail, and the ditch sits under the dip in awning rail channel, on corner.
the pointy bit points to ground

hope this helps


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