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Jockey wheel replacement

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:28 pm
by fishcultureman (deleted)
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I aim to replace the jockey wheel on our 91 Pan Familia since the winding handle is now dozed, and the solid tyre is a bit tired. A bit of measurement tells me I need a standard 48mm. Presumably a heavy duty version also. Apart from that, can anyone tell me if there is anything else I need to look out for before I buy one? Static and dynamic nose weights specs spring to mind.

Advice appreciated as always.



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RE: Jockey wheel replacement

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:18 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.590 Posts

Most prefer a solid tyre as opposed to a pneumatic. Get as wide as you can. Ideally try and source an Alko Premium with built in noseweight gauge. They are expensive but often come up as good second hand examples on the likes of Gumtree as well as e-bay.

Colin


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RE: Jockey wheel replacement

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:44 pm
by SOULBLUESMAN68 | 1.199 Posts

Hi FCMan

My Alko jockey wheel got damaged and I have replaced it this evening with a Kartt Turn Lok unit (as recommended and developed with the C & M Club)This has been a simple job and seems to work well. We are going away this weekend when I can try it out on a hard standing & report back.

It seems heavier duty than the original Alko and comes with good reviews. The C & M Club was about £70 including postage but I got one for £40 post free from EBay Wilmond Engineering.

I will be putting a thread on it soon with some photos (hopefully)

MikeT


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RE: Jockey wheel replacement

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:01 am
by fishcultureman (deleted)
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Thanks Colin.

What I'm more interested in is the minimum static nose load rating of a jockey wheel that would be required to suit our van. The alko premium is out of my budget btw. Anyway, using bathroom scales and a piece of wood the nose weight of our van will not go below 68kg with everything loaded on the centre. It should probably be nearer 50 kg I would imagine. Short of taking the gas bottles out of the locker and loading the back of the van more (a no no), I can't see how a lower nose weight could be achieved. I mean, are Pan familia's naturally nose heavy with the kitchen and fridge at the front?



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RE: Jockey wheel replacement

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:08 am
by fishcultureman (deleted)
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Thanks MikeT.

Yes I've been looking at Kartt. They seem like a decent Alko alternative. I'll keep an eye for your post on this before getting the wallet out.


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RE: Jockey wheel replacement

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:20 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

You need to know the maximum load on your towbar and the maximum load on your caravan drawbar then aim to get your noseweight as near as possible to the lower of the two.

With our Triton, getting the noseweight high enough was the problem but this was easily achieved once I'd fitted the bike rack and mounted two bikes.


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RE: Jockey wheel replacement

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:21 pm
by fishcultureman (deleted)
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Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #6
You need to know the maximum load on your towbar and the maximum load on your caravan drawbar then aim to get your noseweight as near as possible to the lower of the two.

With our Triton, getting the noseweight high enough was the problem but this was easily achieved once I'd fitted the bike rack and mounted two bikes.


Aaron. Thanks for the clear answer. The towbar weight is 75kg max. I don't have the information on the max drawbar weight unfortunately - no idea where to look for that. Anyway, using the 7% of gross laden weight (850kg) ball park rule gives me 59.5 kg nose weight. Either way I'll have to reduce weight.

Ps: I've just bought a Kartt solid wheel jockey btw. Time to put this obsession to bed.



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RE: Jockey wheel replacement

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:29 pm
by fishcultureman (deleted)
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Yes after going round and round in circles, I also ended up buying the Kartt jockey from Wilmond engineering. Thanks MikeT :) Off to walk the dog.


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RE: Jockey wheel replacement

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:11 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.590 Posts

Back to noseweight, all my cars have had a max permissible of 75/80kg. All have however towed best around 55kg.

Colin


aka Oscar - Audi A3 1.5 petrol _ ex 430, 552, camplet trailer tent, 310, now a nice white 2017 430.
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RE: Jockey wheel replacement

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:02 pm
by fishcultureman (deleted)
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Ok so turns out I have the caravans owners manual. 75kg max nose weight on the manufacturer's ID plate. So 55 to a bit less than 75 and I'm happy.
Thanks all for the advice.



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