I was pondering on a new Triton 420 and happened upon an ad for Highbridge which said they had one in stock, though no pics.

Then I looked at the spec.

The standard Triton empty comes off the line at 841kg but by the time they've added allowances for gas and water on board it has a MIRO of 880kg. If you knock that back a bit by having just one 6kg gas cylinder and a couple of kg of toilet cassette water, then a realistic MIRO, as a starting point is about 860kg.

Then they've added stuff and seem to have ticked virtually every box on the options list:
GT Pack 42kg
Spare wheel 22kg
Sprung seating 10kg
Wind-out awning 28kg
Ultraheat 2kg
Multi function bed 5kg
Carpet 12kg
Gas/electric boiler 8kg
30L fresh tank 6kg
Shower 3kg
Weight upgrade 10kg
And I'd add a mover too 27kg

Total 'extras' 205kg

That puts an 860kg van up to 1,065kg before anybody's loaded a sock or teaspoon.

It's already 65kg over it's initial MTPLM, so it's a good thing that it was upgraded.

Our average payload is somewhere around 110kg, so adding that means the total weight will be around 1,175kg, so you can also see why they offer a 1,300kg upgrade, as an alternative to the 1,200kg one.

I just wonder how many buyers, seeing the headline weights of 841kg/1,000kg will realise they're actually buying something at 1,065kg/1300kg.

Then, of couse there's the price of £19,800 inc VAT for a base 420. Highbridge prices for their 420 is £27,115, and add my mover and you're talking £28,615 or so. A full £8,8815 (45%) more than the base price.

We have a 420 GT with all the kit mentioned (other than a wind out awning) and the 1200kg upgrade. If I start worry to about heavy stuff (eg awning) I put it in the back of the car. I haven’t visited a weighbridge but all seems ok so far🤞

Quote: Captain Calamity wrote in post #2

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We have a 420 GT with all the kit mentioned (other than a wind out awning) and the 1200kg upgrade. If I start worry to about heavy stuff (eg awning) I put it in the back of the car. I haven’t visited a weighbridge but all seems ok so far🤞

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Sounds like room for a case of red and a bottle or two of Scotland’s Finest!

The silver sides weight of 20kg is included in the GT Pack weight of 42kg Colin.

It's interesting that if you individually specify all the GT Pack items bar the silver sides you only save about £200 and on that basis, why would you not opt for the GT Pack? Obviously if you don't spec some of the GT Pack items then you save more. I'm not all that keen on the silver overall and much prefer the 60th Edition externals, though the white internals are a tad cold and grim for my taste.

Maybe Hymer should allow more mix and match. Rockabilly external with standard internal, white standard external with white 60th internal. There's an awful lot of potential mixes there.

If they did do mix and match can you imagine the potential for incorrect mixes turning up after waiting months for a van. I can see a Rockabilly external with an Ocean drive interior.

My 2015 Familia 320 was nudging just over the 900kg MTPLM with the GT package, motor mover and then with the load added. I paid €89 to Hymer to have it replated to 1050kg as the axle is already rated for the van.

I see from the 2021 accessories/parts brochure that they now offer chrome hubcaps, which do look nice on the RaB they illustrate. I wonder if what they look like on the white dimple or GT silver. Personally I'm not keen on the current alloys or the previous generation's, I much prefer the ones fitted in the 2000's.

They're also offering a fitted winter cover, which looks as if it's gusseted around the poptop.

Quote: Poptop320 wrote in post #9

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My 2015 Familia 320 was nudging just over the 900kg MTPLM with the GT package, motor mover and then with the load added. I paid €89 to Hymer to have it replated to 1050kg as the axle is already rated for the van.

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One of my WWB's was a 2012 Bailey Pegasus Rimini (penance due I know) it's standard fit out was with cushions across the front. If you wanted a central chest it was extra and weighed an additional 13.5kg. Not only that but the MTPLM was around 1490kg and the axle limit was 1500kg, so no chance of a weight upgrade. IIRC the payload was about 156kg, but mine had the chest, so that reduced it to about 143kg, then the battery took it down to 120kg and the mover to 93kg or so. As said, our regular payload is about 110kg, so we'd be about 20kg over limit. That's one reason I took it to a site where it was parked in a compound and brought out and levelled for us on a pitch whenever we wanted to use it.

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Quote: Poptop320 wrote in post #9

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My 2015 Familia 320 was nudging just over the 900kg MTPLM with the GT package, motor mover and then with the load added. I paid €89 to Hymer to have it replated to 1050kg as the axle is already rated for the van.

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I've wondered about their weight upgrades because they currently charge £385 whatever van and whichever increase and each one is classified as weighing 10kg more. So a 100kg upgrade only yields an extra 90kg in payload and a 200kg upgrade yields 190kg payload increase.

I remember, back a while, they offered really large increases that were expensive because they involved a whole different axle.

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I did a quick calculation on a 2021 540 the other day.

With battery, GT Pack and a few other bits it came to 1,120kg, plus our normal 110kg personal payload that comes out at 1,230kg and the 2021 standard MTPLM is 1,300kg, so a 70kg margin which I'd be happy with. However if you're loading on bikes, awning, etc, then it could get v close, if not over the limit.

Quote: Steamdrivenandy wrote in post #14

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I did a quick calculation on a 2021 540 the other day.

With battery, GT Pack and a few other bits it came to 1,120kg, plus our normal 110kg personal payload that comes out at 1,230kg and the 2021 standard MTPLM is 1,300kg, so a 70kg margin which I'd be happy with. However if you're loading on bikes, awning, etc, then it could get v close, if not over the limit.

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