Awning advice required....
RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:08 amby Pop540 (deleted)
it was the fact the awning brackets need screwing into the awning rail and frame. a drill is required to make a hole into the frame, and concerns of water ingress, but the seal has grey goo (forgot name but its in the 10 year blog with pictures) which does help to keep water out, and ye can apply more sealer to the screw get it check by the dealer, or get the dealer to fix the brackets for ye.
did you know the other term for awning is 'a divorce in a bag'
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RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:15 amby Deeps (deleted)
Adding to my last - this first image shows the Isabella version of the easy setup brackets whilst the second shows the plastic pieces that need to be screwed to the awning rail.
dorema-awning-quicklock-pad.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte) The Towsure http://www.towsure.com/product/Dorema_Awning_QuickLock_Pad parts description for this item is:
By using the Quick Lock Pads it is no longer necessary to screw eyelets onto the caravan. All Dorema full size Awnings from 2003 onwards and many Dorema sun canopies have the quick-lock profile as a standard feature, allowing use of these quick-lock pads eliminating the need to screw the standard plastic eyes onto your caravan. The quick-lock pad fits at any position on the awning enabling the best placement for perfect tensioning of your awning.
Simple to use, just slot the quick-lock pad into place and insert the roof poles, then tension the poles as normal.
awning-mounting-brackets.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)
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RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:24 amby Argie (deleted)
Thanks Deeps..... That has explained a lot for me regarding the fixing methods used to attach the awning to the caravan......
I certainly do not like the idea of using screws to attach fixing brackets to a brand new Troll.... I'm the same as you in that respect as I would probably mess the whole task up.... at the very least I think I would worry that I would cause damage to the van......
The easy setup brackets certainly seem to be a good idea and would address my concerns regarding the screws etc.....
Thanks a lot for your input here.....
Planning on "Tugging a Troll" with my Honda CRV 2.2L i-DTEC
RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:26 amby Randa france • | 13.288 Posts
Hi Argie.
There's a lot of interesting comments here, particularly the one Deeps raises that his German Dealership would not drill and fit permanent brackets to his new van.
Many Eriba owners on this forum have bought their vans second hand with the brackets already fitted and, as far as I'm aware, are giving no trouble.
However, as a next step, I would recommend you phone your Dealer (presumably AL?) and have a chat about the awning you fancy. Ask them how it is fixed to the van and also ask if they would be against drilling and fixing brackets to your new van for you. The actual process of drilling, sealing and fixing is not at all difficult as long as you know the bracket positions but if by doing so, it jeopardises your warranty, then its best done by the supplier or not at all.
Randa
ps. we would all be interested in your dealer's comments
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RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:32 amby Argie (deleted)
Thanks Pop540 for explaining that.....I would certainly prefer a dealer to do that than me..... I also like the idea of thequick setup brackets that Deeps mentioned in his reply.....
Divorce in a bag eh..!!?? I will bear that in mind..
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RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:53 amby Argie (deleted)
Hi Randa....
I have just taken your advice and phoned my dealer AL and spoken to Jason.... He tells me that the Clairval Twin awning that I like the look of is attached to the van by way of 'screwed on' brackets as has been discussed in this thread..... They are happy to do this for me...indeed it seems normal practice for them to do this as a matter of course when an awning is supplied with a new van......
I just need to decide now if I want to go that route or go with the 'easy setup' brackets that have also been mentioned.
I would certainly be far happier for AL to do the screw attachments than for me to be let loose on the van with an electric drill..... It's the thought of spending all that money on a new van and then start drilling holes in it...AL rather than me I think......
Planning on "Tugging a Troll" with my Honda CRV 2.2L i-DTEC
RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:14 pmby Randa france • | 13.288 Posts
Thanks for that information. It's quite interesting isn't it?
As I've said previously, the job is very easy and shouldn't present any problems especially as it's common practice at the AL workshop.
As long as AL can guarantee that the warranty will not be affected then you're in the clear. However, that will be of little consolation if you have to keep running the van back and fore to them to cure any leaks.
Apart from Deeps, who lives in Germany, there are a few others on here with new vans, bought in the UK. It would be interesting to see what they have to say.
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:22 pmby Agger (deleted)
I have mixed feelings on this, so many people buy a van with an awning then don't use it! Others buy a van withiut an awning and wish they had one! Hence my initial reply. Anyway, I would be more intent (no pun)on telling AL not to drill your van to put there little aluminium advertising plate on, if having your van drilled worries you that much, if I was buying new I would'nt want or need it drilled at all.
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RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:31 pmby Argie (deleted)
Yes Randa...It would be good to hear from someone who has bought a new UK van..say a couple or more years ago and has already been down the route of having the fittings for the awning screwed to the van....any problems...leaks...etc...
Planning on "Tugging a Troll" with my Honda CRV 2.2L i-DTEC
RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:37 pmby Argie (deleted)
Hi Agger...
.well I know that in my case the awning will be used extensively.....
As for the screwing of holes in the van I would be more worried if I was having to do it myself than the supplying dealer...however it would be good to hear from other owners that have had this done to their van...
As you say though, drilling holes in a brand new van is not something that you really want to be doing..whether it is the suppliers Ad plate or awning fixings...
Planning on "Tugging a Troll" with my Honda CRV 2.2L i-DTEC
RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:01 pmby Poptop320 • | 2.634 Posts
I had a full awning for my Puck that was made by AR awnings and designed by AL, it was a stand alone frame which was offered up to the van. It probably took about an hour in total to put up and peg down. What I liked about it was that it did put any weight on the awning rail, you also don't have the risk of a pole falling and damaging the skin of the van, some awnings you have to flick the fabric on the roof while you make the poles up. Now the down side, the traditional shaped awning was large and went out from the van by ten feet and when it rained it would collect water in both sides, there were ways around it but like Randa said in previous comment some have extra roof poles to avoid this problem.
We now have a 2012 Familia 320 which we bought from new and we use a AL Porch awning, it is very easy to put up and again it is a stand alone and we find that its more than good enough for up two weeks, and this one doesn't pool when it rains.
I would agree that a full awning would be better if your staying more than two weeks, If I was going to go for a full awning I would go for a Walker as I don't want to put any holes in the exterior of the Eriba and invalidate my warranty.
The last time I enquired about 4 months ago Jeff Bowen awnings were charging about £800 for a Familia Walker awning.....
http://www.bowenawnings.co.uk/awnings/wa...uring-plus.html
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RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:49 pmby Argie (deleted)
Thanks Pop320...all useful information . I will give the walker awnings a look.
I can see that a porch awning would be good for short stays..but as I intend long stays, something along the lines of the Walker would be most suited to my needs.
About 30 years ago I had an awning that fitted to my caravan by means of clip on brackets, not to dissimilar to the ones that have been mentioned earlier in this thread.....no drilling required. However over time I did notice that they had caused small dents in the caravan...I take it that this has not been a problem you have experienced with the Walker..?
Planning on "Tugging a Troll" with my Honda CRV 2.2L i-DTEC
RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:58 pmby Agger (deleted)
Quote: Argie wrote in post #27
About 30 years ago I had an awning that fitted to my caravan by means of clip on brackets, not to dissimilar to the ones that have been mentioned earlier in this thread
We had something similar with our Burstner, from memory I seem to recall they fitted under the original awning rail on flaps of awning material, they could be a right so and so to locate accurately
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RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:07 pmby Deeps (deleted)
Quote: Argie wrote in post #27
I did notice that they had caused small dents in the caravan...I take it that this has not been a problem you have experienced with the Walker..?
Well not in my experience - NO, but I can only speak in terms of it being fitted to our Triton 430 as mentioned earlier. It might be the case (hadn't really thought about it before this thread popped up) that the easy set-up brackets location coincides exactly with the position of the forward and rear corners of the vans frame and so they have something solid behind them when applying tension to the poles.
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RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:47 pmby Randa france • | 13.288 Posts
Zitat
Quote Poptop 320:- If I was going to go for a full awning I would go for a Walker as I don't want to put any holes in the exterior of the Eriba and invalidate my warranty.
A very understandably concern but AL has assured Argie that the warranty would not be affected.
The other consideration is that the drilling and sealing of 12 holes in the midrail to fix the 4 corner handles and the door keep assembly, by some anonymous bloke (or blokess) in the German factory, is far more risky than one of a small number of engineers drilling and fixing awning brackets in the south of England.
Randa
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