Awning advice required....
Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:04 pmby Argie (deleted)
I am looking to purchase a full awning for my new Troll 540 which I've ordered..... I like the style of the 'Twin' shown on the AL site....
Advice....Alternatives...please..
Planning on "Tugging a Troll" with my Honda CRV
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in Making the most of that expensive pitch Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:14 pmby Agger (deleted)
Hello, I can't really help with recommending a make. But in a very long period of using either a camper, motorhome, and caravanning we only ever use either a Fiamma caravanstore or sun awning never a full type. Each to there own of course but how often would you use it? We use our Fiamma on every trip and even in the garden, where our Eriba is.
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in Making the most of that expensive pitch Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:22 pmby Argie (deleted)
As I intend touring for a prolonged period I reckon it will be used a lot..... Most stops will be for two weeks plus.... The extra space that a full awning offers will be pretty important on an extended tour I think...
Planning on "Tugging a Troll" with my Honda CRV
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in Making the most of that expensive pitch Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:27 pmby Agger (deleted)
Your quite right, full awning for extended tours are very useful, of course all you do then is fill them with stuff we used ours when doing the same but now we only frequent the UK and we like you will hopefully be are happy with our choice
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in Making the most of that expensive pitch Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:28 pmby Randa france • | 13.287 Posts
I think it would be fair to say that AL "traditional shaped awnings" have had mixed reviews over the years. Do you know if this awning is built away from the van and then offered up to it or is it built onto the van?
What I do notice from the photograph of it is that it has additional roof bars at mid slope. A must in my opinion.
The other thing I notice is that it has large external mud flaps which I suppose means that it's pegged down on the inside. I think this is an older idea as can be seen in the photo of our pre-2000 Clairval awning. Personally I see nothing wrong with that and our awning is still going strong although it is put up and taken down at least 20 times a year. g8p20-Clairval-Awning.html
One other point. If you can stretch to it, go for the fibreglass poles. Far easier, lighter (and quieter) than the metal ones.
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
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in Making the most of that expensive pitch Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:38 pmby Argie (deleted)
Not sure of the order of the build yet...I need to check that out. In your opinion what is best...built away or onto the van..?
Your Clairval looks good...I do like that style of awning.
I take your point on the lighter and quieter aspect of fibreglass poles...but are the steel ones not stronger...?
How long does your Clairval take to errect...?
Planning on "Tugging a Troll" with my Honda CRV
RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:52 pmby Randa france • | 13.287 Posts
A couple of us off this forum watched a "build away from the van" awning being put up a few years ago and it looked like a huge struggle. Therefore it's my opinion that a "build onto the van " is best.
The fibreglass poles are of a bigger diameter but are of course, less rigid but I think that slight flexing in high winds helps the overall stability of the awning.
Between the two of us, we can have the awning up and ready for pegging down in about 10-15 minutes.
Best to erect it without the sides and front in but they must be zipped in before pegging to get the awning square and taut. Pegging down is always the worst part of camping, whatever you have
The above are of course, only my opinions so lets see what others say?
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
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in Making the most of that expensive pitch Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:07 pmby Pop540 (deleted)
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in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:03 amby Frantone (deleted)
Over the years we have had Clairval, Soplair, Van der Horn x2 (all full framed awnings), an Outwell tunnel style and currently a Unico. We only used the full awnings if on site for more than a couple of days but more often we use a Caravanstore roll out in combination with a wind break.
The Caravanstore is really quick and easy to use and if roped down properly and angled to shed water it will stand up to the weather very well. In extreme conditions it can be put away in seconds.
I think you can't beat a purpose made full framed awning for protection, comfort and extra space. Deeps expressed concern over fixing awning brackets to the caravan rail with screws but this has been the method of awning attachment since Eribas first appeared. It certainly gives the most secure fitment.
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in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:22 amby Argie (deleted)
WOW... Frantone, you have certainly had some 'awning experience'
I am planning a long and extended tour with stops of more than a week+ each time. As you say you only used the full awnings if stopping over for more than a few days I think that a 'full awning' will be the right way to go in my case.....
What was the exact concern over the fixing method of the awning brackets......this is something that I wasn't aware of....?
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in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:47 amby Aaron Calder • | 3.834 Posts
I agree with Tony that the full awning is the way to go. Our second-hand Triton came with a Soplair 'Bourgogne' awning and it has been wonderful.
If we are staying three days or more anywhere we put the awning up and leave the bed made up. We cook, eat and generally live in the awning. when the weather is hot we can unzip the front and sides and have a sun canopy; if it's windy one side or both can be zipped in.
The metal supports for the poles were already fitted when we got the van and have never given rise to any problems. We stow the fibre poles in the transverse rear locker and the panels in an underbed locker.
Erecting the awning gets easier with practice and it's no real chore to put it up and take down.
Have a look at the awnings gallery for pictures of the various types in use.
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RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:02 amby Deeps (deleted)
Quote: Argie wrote in post #12
What was the exact concern over the fixing method of the awning brackets......this is something that I wasn't aware of....?
As I was mentioned lol, I'll jump in here. I'm relatively new to caravanning myself so accept the long established knowledge of those who have gone before.
It appears that, as Frantone mentioned, by far the old established way of securing an awning to the van is (a) by sliding it info the awning rail in the first instance of course and then (b) securing it in place by small plastic brackets that are secured (screwed) to the van and thereafter left in place. In fact when we purchased our Walker awning last year it came with these brackets etc although they were not required to be used as Walker, along with some other makers of awnings, now use what are called easy setup brackets (see image) and which were also supplied with the packaging. These brackets are held in place at the corners of the van solely by tension that is applied to the poles. One member, with a Troll I believe, reported that with the use of these he has experienced sliding of the awning. I myself with a Triton have not personally experienced this although the awning has been subjected to a short period of extremely bad weather.
In effect my concern with screwing brackets to the van during the guarantee period might - and I say might - cause problems should say the screws, which do become rusty in time, allow for water seepage behind the screws and behind the inside panneling of the van. I expressed my conern about this in the first instance to the dealer from whom we bought the van and asked if he would do the business with the brackets/screws to which he politely refused during the guarantee period which is 3 years for us over here, and 6 years against water ingress. I suppose I could have done the job myself but.............well, knowing me I'd probably make a right pigs ear of it.
Anyway, we finally settled upon the easy setup brackets with which the awning was supplied which means that there is nothing apart from the awning beading which slides into the rail as normal that is physically secured to the van. And, as I said earlier, this method has worked perfectly well for us up to now. By the way it might be the case that Walker borrowed the idea from Isabella (a well known and quality brand) who also use the easy setup brackets (under another name) on some of their awnings.
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Edit: this image shows only 1 pole attached to the bracket but with the Walker awning 2 poles attach to it - the one running from the centre roof along with the first of the side poles as shown.
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RE: Awning advice required....
in Making the most of that expensive pitch Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:07 amby Argie (deleted)
Thanks Aaron.... I've been looking at the awnings gallery recently....certainly plenty of examples of awnings there..!!!
Do I take it that the fittings for the poles are a permanent fix to the van...? How are these fitted exactly..? This is something that I have not checked out yet as I won't have delivery of my van till early in the New Year. I'm just trying to think ahead and cover all the bases...
Planning on "Tugging a Troll" with my Honda CRV 2.2L i-DTEC
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