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Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:21 am
by Chief (deleted)
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Morning,
I am hoping to be driving some 200 miles tomorrow to look at a '78 pan and would like a bit of advice on what to check on these vans. I'm more of a classic VW man myself but as I mentioned in my hello post, my back is no longer up to crawling under a bus and tinkering every 5 mins
The van owner is a member on here and has sent me oodles of info and pictures which was a great help btw. But as I say, I'm going armed with cash and it's a large investment (to me anyway) and I want to get it right.
Thanks for reading :)

Admin. note. The seller has been traced and is in fact a Facebook Member and not a Forum Member



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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:34 am
by Randa france | 13.258 Posts

Hi Gavin. I'm sure that if the current owner is a member of Eribafolk he/she will not try to hide anything and shouldn't mind if I refer you to this thread :- Eriba Triton needing a lot of welding

As you can see, the Fitzgeralds were left in the right pickle when they bought this from a stranger. Fortunately after a lot of hard work, they now own a really solid classic. I'm afraid you're going to have to punish your back again and crawl underneath. That's the horror story over with a happy but expensive ending.

Eribas are built on a T Pole Chassis like this :- g7p1994-Framework-separated.html and it's the lower perimeter tubular framework that often goes first particularly in the front. Brakes, bearings and towing gear are easily fixable just like a braked towing trailer. Tyre age is important but not expensive to fix.

I know it sounds daft but inside you can normally smell a good Eriba. They have their own unique smell if there's no damp present.

Check the poptop. On a van of that age you'd expect the canvas to look a little shabby but as long as its not becoming detached. Also check that the roof itself is well anchored :- poptop problems

General condition, just pretend your buying a VW Bus without an engine.

Armed with cash normally means that you'll hopefully be bringing it home with you. Have you checked whether the van has an ALKO tow hitch and stabiliser fitted which means that you should only tow it with an extended neck or swan neck tow ball? Also does the van have the traditional 2 x 7 pin wiring or the newer single 13 pin and does your tow car match?

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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:42 am
by Chief (deleted)
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Thanks for the comprehensive reply and links, I have the kettle on now for some reading :)
As I type this, headleys tow centre have a man on my drive fitting a swan neck tow bar and 7pin electrics to my new (to me) Passat estate 2009 highline 2.0 tdi.... good point on the electrics though... I didn't ask the seller before getting the kit fitted doh!!
My gut tells me I'm going to see a much loved and enjoyed van from good folk, I guess I'm just a bit of a worrier lol


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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:47 am
by hob (deleted)
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Zitat
78 pan



Unless its been altered 7 pin electrics were the only type in use in those days, you may be able to see the plugs in the pictures?


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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:07 am
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: Chief wrote in post #3
As I type this, headleys tow centre have a man on my drive fitting a swan neck tow bar and 7pin electrics to my new (to me) Passat estate 2009 highline 2.0 tdi.
It might be too late, but if you have the option of 13 pin electrics, go for that. A 13 pin car is backwards compatible with a 7 pin van using a ten quid adaptor, but a 7 pin car is not forwards compatible if you buy a newer van with 13 pin electrics later on.

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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:09 am
by Chief (deleted)
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Bugger


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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:29 am
by Bryn | 1.027 Posts

I am having my electrics switched from 7 pin to 13 pin at a cost of 249 euros, the UK quote for the same is £140 inc vat, the adapter is availble each way so 13 pin is easy to switch for a small trailer, good luck


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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:58 pm
by jobberwock (deleted)
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I bought an adapter two weeks ago from Halfords that switches from your car standard fit to the Eriba 13 pin.
Cost around £35.
I need to keep my car on the standard electrics for other trailers.


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in Anything Eriba-related Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:24 pm
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

My understanding is that a standard 7 pin car socket will only provide power to the van's road lighting and won't allow the use of the fridge or charge the caravan battery while towing.

That's what I meant by not being forwards compatible.

If I'm wrong, and I've inadvertently misinformed anyone - Chief in particular - then I apologise. I ought to have been clearer, not least by saying fully forwards compatible.

And I should really have asked Chief whether he was having twin 7 pin (12N and 12S) wiring which will allow everything to work on a 13 pin van (by means of an adaptor) or standard single 7 pin, which I'm still pretty sure won't.

You live and learn.

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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:34 am
by Bryn | 1.027 Posts

my 7 pin on the car will power the exterior lights of the caravan, the 13 pin adapter allows me to plug the aravan plug (13 pin) to the car (7 pin) when I have the socket changed to 13 pin ( on the car) all electrics in the Eriba will work, I then use another adapter to switch the car from 13 pi to 7 pin, this means my lighting board for trailer will work


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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:30 am
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

This is all very confusing so this link may help clarify matters: towing sockets

So far as I understand it, if you are only towing a trailer then a 7-pin socket is sufficient.

If you want to tow a caravan or a trailer you need either two 7-pin sockets or a 13-pin socket.

You can use a13-pin to 7-pin converter to tow a trailer but you cannot convert a single 7-pin to 13-pin electrics via a plug-in adapter.


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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:17 am
by gattim (deleted)
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I think you CAN tow a caravan with a single 12N socket but it I'll mean not being able to use the 12v in the caravan, not using the fridge or charging the battery


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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:20 am
by Randa france | 13.258 Posts

I think everyone who has towing experience and has commented above is correct in what they say but it is a little difficult to get it over. Nothing says it better than a diagram or pic.:-

2 x 7pin car electrics adapting to 13 pin caravan socket :- Adaptor

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13pin car to 7pin trailer or caravan (the fridge won't work in the caravan as these are just towing electrics) :- Adaptor

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13pin car to 2 x 7pin caravan (the fridge will work) :- Adaptor

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In fact you can buy any of them from this last supplier. The Caravan Shop

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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:04 am
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #11
This is all very confusing so this link may help clarify matters: towing sockets

So far as I understand it, if you are only towing a trailer then a 7-pin socket is sufficient.

If you want to tow a caravan or a trailer you need either two 7-pin sockets or a 13-pin socket.

You can use a13-pin to 7-pin converter to tow a trailer but you cannot convert a single 7-pin to 13-pin electrics via a plug-in adapter.
There you go. That's it.

I wish I was as clever as what you are, Mr C.

No, really I do.

Honest.

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RE: Advice on what to look out for....

in Anything Eriba-related Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:32 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

And I wish I could draw like what you can, M. Le Pew.


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