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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:52 pm
by Aaron Calder | 3.834 Posts

Am I alone in having 195 x 70 R14 tyres on my 1200Kg chassis Triton?

Everyone else seems to have 13" wheels so far.


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:55 pm
by hob (deleted)
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Quote: hob wrote in post #22
When in doubt read the manual Which incidentally is all in Dutch (the perils of running an import)

Anyway it seems the spare is indeed original and the book quotes

For Triton 430 1000 Kg axle 185/70 R13
For Triton 430 1200 Kg axle 195/70 R14



1200 Kg axle 195/70 R14


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:00 pm
by Deeps (deleted)
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On our 2013 Triton 430 with the 1200kg rated axle the tyre size is 185 R14 C 102 L


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:43 pm
by hob (deleted)
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Quote: cabbie37 wrote in post #44
Those look perfect for my Troll, Hob. Did you get those through a local tyre place or buy on line and then plan to get them fitted somewhere? I'd be interested to know what you chose when you can recall that.

thanks...


Got the spare fitted today they are davanti tyres

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Davanti/


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:04 pm
by hob (deleted)
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Quote: hob wrote in post #19
I managed to get the spare out of the carrier (and what a bloody game that is)




Bought a new padlock for the carrier today, the old one needed a helping hand with a hammer to get it working after swinging around in the dirt under the van for 10 years unused.

Bought an abus.... only just over 7 quid ..... good make if anyone else needs to change one be sure to get the same size as the old one bigger ones don't fit.


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:37 pm
by Randa france | 13.283 Posts

We no longer carry our spare under the van. As we are obliged to carry the car's spare in the back of the car ( spare wheels are not standard on a Touran) we've decided to carry the van spare in the car as well. They sit happily behind the front seats in the rear footwells. We remove all the rear seats anyway when travelling so we tow with a window van rather than a car.

Randa

ps. Just for interest, what's the max. tyre pressure on your new tyres?


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:26 pm
by hob (deleted)
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Just for interest, what's the max. tyre pressure on your new tyres?



65 Psi I normally run the old ones at about 34


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:07 pm
by Randa france | 13.283 Posts

Quote: hob wrote in post #52

Zitat
Just for interest, what's the max. tyre pressure on your new tyres?
65 Psi I normally run the old ones at about 34


Sounds good. We're running ours on 3bar (44psi) as per the Hymer chart :- https://files.homepagemodules.de/b614104/...n2_zPTBysJo.jpg

Don't forget what Pete said. As you've gone for a more rigid side wall, run with a little less pressure.

Randa


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:24 pm
by jasond4289 (deleted)
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That's interesting. My owners instruction manual states 2.4 bar or 35 psi, but that chart states 3 bar which is 43.5 psi!


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:47 am
by cabbie37 | 695 Posts

Quote: hob wrote in post #49
Quote: cabbie37 wrote in post #44
Those look perfect for my Troll, Hob. Did you get those through a local tyre place or buy on line and then plan to get them fitted somewhere? I'd be interested to know what you chose when you can recall that.

thanks...


Got the spare fitted today they are davanti tyres

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Davanti/




Thanks Hob. I have never heard of that make, they look interesting.

On the off chance, I popped into my local tyre fitter yesterday, told them what I wanted and they were unfazed. I was a little surprised to find they kept a small selection of caravan tyres in stock at all times. For my Troll, they could provide WestLake 165R13C 94 Q, fitted, including vat, balancing and carcass disposal for just a few pence under £40 each, which I am very happy with and will follow that up when I retrieve the van for my first outing in a couple of weeks..

If anyone else is interested, this is at ArburyFast fit in Cambridge..

This has been a really helpful thread - thanks!


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:29 am
by Randa france | 13.283 Posts

Quote: jasond4289 wrote in post #54
That's interesting. My owners instruction manual states 2.4 bar or 35 psi, but that chart states 3 bar which is 43.5 psi!

Hi Jason. Tyre pressures on Eribas has been a puzzle for a number of years. The chart you refer to was, I think, issued by Hymer to several forums and Eriba clubs on the Continent in 2012. This was as a result of somebody on the French Forum approaching Hymer and asking why there was so much confusion with the tyre pressure figures available at the time. That's what I understood anyway.

Brian (Aaron Calder) also obtained a copy from another source. I can't quite remember where. Previous to this chart, 2.5bar (36psi) was generally thought to be adequate although there were many conflicting figures available.

What's interesting is if you look at the formula in the Caravan Chronicles http://caravanchronicles.com/guides/calc...r-your-caravan/ then the tyres on my van should be inflated to 48psi.

Load rating 86 = 530kg
Tyre max. inflation = 51 psi
Weight of Eriba 1000kg

Therefore max. pressure for tyre divided by load rating....... 51 dived by 530 = 0.0962.(inflation factor)
Inflation Factor times half the weight of the caravan............0.0962 x 500kg = 48psi.


This formula uses the maximum tyre inflation and load rating as its main contributing factors and if you substitute any of those two factors with, let's say, a tyre with max. tyre inflation = 36 psi but the same load rating, then that tyre should only be inflated to 34 psi.

As I've never found a figure recommending max. tyre inflation ratings for Eribas and the 3 sets of tyres I've had on my Eriba since it was built, have all had different max. tyre inflation ratings (although those tyres had identical size, load and speed ratings):-
Dunlop :- 44 psi
Runway :- 36 psi
Current Tyres :- 51 psi

then I'm non the wiser

Randa


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:50 am
by jasond4289 (deleted)
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Following the link to the 2014 manual, the most recent available, gives another figure of 2.8 bar which is 40 psi! Like you, I am dubious of using max tyre pressure when they vary so much, but have always thought 35 psi was low, as did my tyre fitter the other day, so I think I may follow advice of the latest manual. As I did a thousand miles last year at 35 psi, I know natural loses between checks are covered.


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:57 am
by hob (deleted)
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Zitat
if you look at the formula in the Caravan Chronicles




Did that with mine yesterday and it came out at 51.5


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:01 am
by Pepé Le Pew | 2.752 Posts

Quote: Randa france wrote in post #56
As I've never found a figure recommending max. tyre inflation ratings for Eribas...
Other than to be able to use that formula, why would you need a maximum inflation figure? Isn't the recommended operating pressure (i.e. at the typical load) okay by itself?

I can't help wondering if there isn't a degree of overthinking going on with this whole tyre pressure business.

Of course it's important, but it isn't absolutely critical that your van tyres are inflated to exactly 42 psi (or whatever the recommended figure is). I bet that most of us drive our cars round with the tyre pressures only somewhere in the vicinity of what they're supposed to be for most of the time. I'm reasonably conscientious about checking the pressures on the small fleet of cars I'm tasked with maintaining, but if you don't check for a month or so (do we all remember to check religiously more often than that, hand on heart?) and find that a couple of tyres are four or five psi lower than they should be, then it stands to reason that you've been using the car with the tyres underinflated for most of the time.

And, ultimately, car tyre pressures are more important than van tyres because of the loads and stresses they have to endure, not to mention the fact that the car is where the human beings are...

There is some leeway. It's probably unwise to approach it with the feckless attitude that the drivers of saggy-arsed and rusty Sierras towing manifestly overloaded WWBs seem to display, but if you apply a modicum of common sense I don't think it's necessary to get stressed out over every last pound per square inch.


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RE: Tyres?

in Anything Eriba-related Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:09 am
by hob (deleted)
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Zitat
if you apply a modicum of common sense I don't think it's necessary to get stressed out over every last pound per square.



Sounds good sense to me, and having tyre pressure gauges built in on my car I can see pressures change by 3 to 4 psi from cold to hot running on my dash.

What i need is a ball park figure, seen everything from 34 to 51.5 psi so far.

Think i'll go with 34 and see how it goes, did all right for the last ones.


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