Tyres?
Quote: Aaron Calder wrote in post #73
One decision I have come to having read this thread carefully is that I shall be avoiding towing in Germany in future.
That's a shame. I had a fab holiday in Germany last summer in my much campaigned 25 yro Esterel folding van, It was being surrounded by loads on one particular camp site that caused me finally to succumb to the lure of an Eriba. Oblivious to the rules that have been discussed here, I traveled several 100 miles with the cruise control set at 61 mph without causing any upset...
Maybe I was lucky.
Quote: highmiler wrote in post #72
Let's have some examples please from especially Troll owners, My current tyres are at 43 psi, and she tows very well, but I have never heard of the brand name, they are chinese. Highmiler.
Well, for better or for worse, I made our decision this time last year.
Please bear in mind that our Troll is only 1000kg gross weight.
The decision I made was to go with the same size, load and speed rated tyres that were originally fitted to the van.
I went for a mid-range budget tyre (probably from the far east) with a max. inflation figure of 51 psi. I also had the caravan wheels balanced.
I run with 40-43 psi in the tyres. We towed from S Wales to Portugal and Gibraltar last spring and to John O Groats last Autumn. All went well.
Randa
ps. Germany was fine for us too back in 2012. So much so that we'll be spending some time in the old East Germany this year. The only down side is that they don't like UK debit or credit cards so take loads of Euros.
As for speed limits, almost all countries in Europe, including France, have a towing speed limit of circa 50 mph for bigger Eribas (unless you tow with a Fiat 500 or similar) so just tuck yourself in behind the lorries and save oodles of fuel.
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
Quote: hob wrote in post #75Agreed.
So we debate alternatives, I have never suffered from the delusion that my decisions may be "definitive"
If only this was an empirical discussion. It isn't. There are umpteen different types and sizes of tyres fitted to these things. Some have 'heavy-duty' van tyres; some have car tyres. My Troll has these. I put them on to replace these, which it came with when we bought it, and since it was three years old at the time I assume it had had them from new. So I did a like-for-like, effectively, except that the load rating of the Uniroyals is a bit less. The Kargomaxes were well over-specced for the weight of the van, so I reckoned I had a bit of wiggle room.
I bought Uniroyals because they're a brand I know and their car tyres are well-reviewed. I could have bought cheaper ones - much cheaper ones - I'd never heard of, but (to use a well-worn phrase) there are only six relatively small patches of rubber between my outfit and the road and I choose not to skimp on them.
It's a personal thing.
As far as pressures are concerned I've tried to use a hopefully well-judged combination of advice and common sense. It's probably the best I can do, I reckon.
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yy-R56kh
Quote: hob wrote in post #75
Anyway it seems the spare is indeed original and the book quotes
For Triton 430 1200 Kg axle 195/70 R14
At whatever pressure they recommend.
Which serves to highlight the point that no matter the source of the information - unless from the manufacturer themselves of course - it should only be taken as either a personal opinion based on previous experience and/or from someone who happens to own exactly the same model van as you which was also built in the same production run and, perhaps most importantly, would also have the same version of handbook that you should have.
Repeating from a post I made earlier, the tyres fitted to our 2013 Triton with a 1200kg axle are - 185 R14 C 102L so straight away one can see that the same model of van but having possibly different build years are using different size and type of tyres - one a 'commercial' tyre (stiffer side walls) and with a load rating of 102L. In my opinion this only serves to reinforce the view that the only sure-fire way of obtaining the correct answer is to ask the horse directly i.e. Hymer and print out the reply (as I did with a towball question presented to Mazda) and that way should the you know what hit the fan, you've always got a piece of paper to wave.
2013 Triton 430, Mazda CX-5 D-150, AWD AT, Walker Touring Plus awning, Isabella Shadow sun shade.
Good point, my info came from a 2006 handbook
Also in that post it said "when in doubt read the handbook "
Meaning read the handbook for your own van
(assuming it was not lost by a previous owner)
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Vauxhall Insignia Sri 1.8 petrol 2015 towing 2006 Triton 430 import
Is this of any use to anyone ?
http://www.tyresafe.org/check-your-press...ure-calculator/
Dave
Eriba Triton 430 converted to a 418 ish 04 import tickling a Citroen C4 auto 1.6 Hdi
Thanks for that, very interesting it gave me 52 Psi
This place worked out at 51.5 Psi
http://caravanchronicles.com/guides/calculate-the-correct-tyre-pressure-for-your-caravan/
I emailed the tyre maker tonight .............waiting for a reply.
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Vauxhall Insignia Sri 1.8 petrol 2015 towing 2006 Triton 430 import
Quote: eribanaut wrote in post #81
Is this of any use to anyone ?
http://www.tyresafe.org/check-your-press...ure-calculator/
Dave
I know it's now beginning to seem as though we're beating a dead horse, but you'll notice the get-out clause i.e. the very first sentence, in the banner.
Follow the caravan manufacturer's recommendations where available. followed by However, the accuracy of data cannot be guaranteed and users should consult their handbook for full approved settings.
So whichever way you look at it, the manufacturer of the van is the only reliable source.
2013 Triton 430, Mazda CX-5 D-150, AWD AT, Walker Touring Plus awning, Isabella Shadow sun shade.
Apologies, definitive was the wrong word to use. I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers.
I will probably go for a brand that I know and as to pressure be hopefully advised by the fitter, whilst also applying the formula shown earlier in the forum.
Highmiler.
Highmiler
Quote: Randa france wrote in post #85
They are not youngsters like you and me
You're correct but at least most of us aren't XXXXX (sorry, couldn't bring myself to say it).
2013 Triton 430, Mazda CX-5 D-150, AWD AT, Walker Touring Plus awning, Isabella Shadow sun shade.
A couple of weeks ago I was contacted by an Eriba owner with a 2013 van. He asked me to point this information out to you all when I had a chance. Because we've had some unreliable wifi signals I've left it until now.
Evidently, on newer vans there is a chart with tyre pressure information on the inside side wall of the locker box and this information conflicts with the information given in the accompanying manual.
Upon contacting Hymer, the owner was told that the info. given in the manual is for the Eriba when towed empty and the pressures stated in the locker box are for the Eriba when towed fully laden.
In the case of this particular 2013 Triton the tyre pressure in the manual is 3.3bar and the gas locker chart states 3.7bar (presumably when the van is fully laden).
What do you make of that then?
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
I'd guess that a recommendation to run them at pushing 54 psi fully laden (that's what 3.7 bar is) means 2013 Triton tyres are likely to be 185/R14C.
I wouldn't want to run our Troll (which has the same size tyres) with the pressures as high as that, fully laden or not.
We've said it before, but the suspension on these things is pretty rudimentary and depends on a degree of compliance in the tyre sidewalls to avoid having to sweep up your crockery with a dustpan and brush when you get wherever it is you're going*
And pressure that high doesn't tally with the online pressure calculators like the one Nev found a while ago, never mind common sense.
*That's a situation compounded by not having the van's wheels balanced. It's off at a bit of a tangent, but I completely fail to understand the logic of not bothering to do that when you have tyres replaced.
Just because you aren't sitting in it doesn't mean that it isn't bouncing along behind doing its damnedest to unscrew every nut and bolt.
It's mechanical empathy, apart from anything else...
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yy-R56kh
It's mechanical empathy, apart from anything else".[ Like that. I'll use that one again
We have a different set of circumstances, older and lighter van; smaller wheels and tyres, but I agree with you. We've found that 3bar (44psi) is the max. we are happy with. On this trip because of the lower speeds and rougher roads, we're down to 40psi.
Randa
1999 Eriba Troll 530 pushing a VW Touran 2L TDi Match
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